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Gregor9
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(4/2/03 1:49 pm)
Re: comic tone
Rosemary,
It sounds then as if the earlier Italian "Rapunzels" bore more relationship to Apuleius than to the French salons.

Greg

Honouria
Registered User
(4/3/03 2:02 am)
Re: comic tone
Rosemary

Yes I would be very grateful to recieve your version. You have given me a lot to think about, I hadn't looked at Italian Fairytales in any detail but its certainly an idea. My Email address for anyone who has anything useful to send me (an entire study would be nice hehe !! only joking) is

Honouria@aol.com

My tutor by the way was very glad that I was discussing Greg's book as no-one else is and she thinks it will be interesting. So you never know you might be on the curriculum next year!!

Thanks again

Honouria
Registered User
(4/3/03 2:08 am)
Re: comic tone
Oh I forgot what I came on to ask!! Doh!! (Homer moment)

Does anyone have any ideas of feminist fairytales for children in particular that I might look at! Obviously it would be best if they were related to Bluebeard, Little Red Riding Hood and Snow White. Although any stories that focus on positive representations of women and the removal or redifining of stereotypes would do just fine.


Thanks again

Gregor9
Registered User
(4/3/03 1:16 pm)
Feminist for children
Honouria,
Depending upon what you mean by "for children"--that is, what age group--you might for instance look at Donna Jo Napoli's "Zel", a retelling of Rapunzel, or her "Sirena", which is based rather on an episode from Homer's Iliad. These both qualify as Young Adult novels.

Greg

Honouria
Registered User
(4/4/03 10:47 am)
Re: Feminist for children
I didn't really have an age group in mind just not adult. I suppose in terms of influence then those aimed at young children and those at teenagers are most interesting as these are the times when ideas about the world are first formed and reformed.

Gregor9
Registered User
(4/4/03 1:09 pm)
Re: Feminist for children
If YAs apply to what you're looking for, then add Holly Black's "Tithe" to your list.

Greg

Honouria
Registered User
(4/9/03 7:08 am)
White as Snow
Thanks greg, will look into those

One more thing I wondered if anyone was able to help me with. I am writing about 'White as Snow' by Tannith Lee at the moment. I know a lot of people commented on Greg's text, but does anyone have any opinions on the feminist elements of this one. Obviously the story goes into much more detail than the original and draws on other forms of mythology rather than just Snow White, but does it address the issues of Gender and rewriting stereotypes. The part I find most interesting is the way she portrays the dwarfs and the balancing of male /female relationships by the fact the dwarfs attain even less respect in the novel than women do. I wonder has anyone got an oppinion on how successful sexual relationships in tales such as this and to a certain extent the Bloody Chamber require the men to be damaged on removed from what is socially considered to be masculinity. Are feminist texts suggesting it is impossible to have equal relationships on any other grounds? and that men always require power in relationships?

Jess
Unregistered User
(4/9/03 8:25 pm)
hmm
I had better pick up a copy of "White as Snow" so that I can disagree with everyone else's interpretation on the board. hehe Seriously, I have yet to read this book. You raise some interesting questions. It intrigues me.

Jess

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