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gigi
Unregistered User
(11/8/05 3:21 pm)
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background info for the seven veils
I am dabbling in a writing a story on Salome. She is the character who asked for John The Baptist's head on a platter in The Wilde play and Strauss opera.
I have learned much knowldege on her from conducting web searches but in hunting down information on the seven veils dance and perhaps why Oscar Wilde chose to portray it that way I have come across....
..I have come across a connection from the dance of the seven veils to the Ishtar myth. I looked up that and received garbled information. If anyone can see the coneection between the Seven Veils and The Ishtar myth.
PS Who IS Ishtar? I know she's an ancient Babylonian Goddess. But of what is she specified a goddess of?
thank you for your help
gigi
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Serasare
Lasidia
Registered User
(11/8/05 7:31 pm)
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Re: background info for the seven veils
All right, I don't know that much on the Seven Veils thing, but i do know who Ishtar was. She was the goddess of love and fertility and was said to be extremely cruel to her lovers.
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AliceCEB
Registered User
(11/8/05 7:48 pm)
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Re: background info for the seven veils
I'm dredging up memories here, but I believe that Ishtar was the goddess who attempted to seduce Gilgamesh (and as Sarasare said, she was a cruel goddess of love). When he refused her advances, she sent down (with the help of another god?) a beast, and then illness which killed Gilgamesh's best friend, Enkidu and led to Gilgamesh's great quest to find immortality. I do not remember anymore whether, in her failed seduction, she used veils.
Best,
Alice
Edited by: AliceCEB at: 11/8/05 7:51 pm
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evil little pixie
Registered User
(11/8/05 9:36 pm)
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Re: background info for the seven veils
Here's some info on Ishtar:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar
Good luck!
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gigi
Unregistered User
(11/9/05 9:59 pm)
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thank you
Dearest evil little pixie,
You Have directed me, O most wise and internet savvy One to the exact information I was seeking
LOOk....
<<One of the most striking Sumerian myths describes Inanna passing through seven gates of hell into the underworld. At each gate some of her clothing and her ornaments are removed until at the last gate she is entirely naked. Ereshkigal, the queen of the underworld kills her and hangs her corpse on a hook on the wall. When Inanna returns from the underworld by intercession of the clever god, her uncle, Enki, according to the rules she must find someone to take her place. On her way home she encounters her friends prostrated with grief at her loss, but in Kulaba, her cult city, she finds her lover Dumuzi, a son of Enki, Tammuz seated in splendour on a throne, so she has him seized and dragged below. Later, missing him, she arranges for his sister to substitute for him during six months of the year. (Compare Greek story of Persephone)>>
And what is even better is that they have compared it to standard widely known Western myths. Thank You.
And thank you to all those who have replied.
The connection I believe in the descent to the Underworld in which she is stripped of her garments gradually as she goes through the hells.....
It sort of shadows the Amen Ra myth in Egypt. Do you thik this is anolder tale or at the same period....Hmm. Must research......
anyway thanks.
gigi
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evil little pixie
Registered User
(11/10/05 8:33 am)
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Re: thank you
I'm glad I could help, gigi! I don't know much about mythology, but I do like wikipedia. Good luck with the rest of your research!
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