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cmoore0013
Unregistered User
(2/22/05 6:16 pm)
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Hansel and Gretel ideas
Hi,
I'm working on a film version of Hansel and Gretel. I was thinking that the first part should be an intense drama and the second part should be pure horror.
I had ideas about the witch baking her victims hearts in gingerbread men and women. Their spirit remains in the gingerbread. She decorates them and then sticks them out side of her secluded house. Then she also keeps body parts, old dolls, old clothes, things like that. There are skeletons, etc. Also, I was thinking that the house would be haunted by many of the victims past. And finnally, this crazy idea came from God knows where, but I wanted the witch to boil a couple of her victims in wax. Then stick them in her house. I just though that was creepy. I was cotemplating an idea about the witch saying to Gretel "I'll cook your brother and eat him, but you will be here forever as wax"
Any ideads, comments? Thanks
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KathieRose
Unregistered User
(2/28/05 8:09 pm)
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Hansel and Gretal ideas
The horror's a bit overdone, for my taste. But if the gingerbread holds the hearts and spirits of the witch's victims, instead of the wax idea, you might have her roof [made up of gingerbread, as I recall] be composed of gingerbread shingles made up of her entrapped victims........
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Helen J Pilinovsky
Registered User
(2/28/05 9:15 pm)
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Re: Hansel and Gretal ideas
I rather like the idea of the witch "preserving" her victims ... it has a nice touch of Jadis about it. However, given her penchant for the culinary arts, instead of wax, why not perhaps look into some other ... edible ... alternative? Wax isn't really more permanent then, say, candying, caramalizing, or curing the tasty tidbits ...
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cmoore0013
Unregistered User
(3/1/05 4:05 pm)
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Thanks
Thanks for your posts.
The roof idea and Candy coating of the victims is a very good set of ideas.
I was just thnking that dolls and wax figures are extremely scary. I thought it would addd a creepy vibe to the film.
I'm also going to have the kids meet another kid named Toby. He is captured before them and when they get to the house, they find out that the witch is about to eat Toby. Gretel has to watch Toby getting killed and baked.
I know I want it to be intense survivalist horror like lets say, Texas Chainsaw, Tourist Trap, or Wrong Turn. The story would already be considered innappropriate for kids, so I know I need to add more creepiness to it.
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LostBoyTootles
Registered User
(3/2/05 5:29 pm)
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Re: Thanks
I love the idea of the witch capturing her victim's souls in gingerbread! Sounds like a great movie. The only thing that doesn't seem to fit is the name "Toby." The character works, I think, but the name just doesn't fit. Hansel, Gretel, and Toby. Maybe find another German name, like Jakob or Nikolaus or Fritz or something like that.
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cmoore0013
Unregistered User
(3/2/05 5:47 pm)
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Never thought about that
Thanks. I never thought about that.
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Helen J Pilinovsky
Registered User
(3/2/05 6:51 pm)
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Re: Never thought about that
As an smaller alteration, Tobias could work ... it's still foreign (which has interesting implications), but chronologically accessible.
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AliceCEB
Registered User
(3/3/05 8:32 am)
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Baking children into gingerbread
Your version is very close to one I saw on TV in Canada, years ago, I would guess either the very late 1960s or the earlier 1970s, where the path to the witch's house is lined by gingerbread people. Once Hansel and Gretel kill the witch, the gingerbread people are transformed into all the children she lured to her house over the years--she apparently had baked them into gingerbread. I recall the creepy notion of what would have happened if Hansel or Gretel had eaten a piece of cookie from one of the people instead of from the side of the house.
The image at the time was very powerful--the creepiness lingered--and for a long time I have looked for versions (written or visual) that match that recollection.
Best,
Alice
Edited by: AliceCEB at: 3/3/05 8:34 am
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cmoore0013
Unregistered User
(3/3/05 1:10 pm)
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TV version
The movie could have either been Faerie tale theatre's version or the Cannon Movie Tale version.
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