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Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(7/4/04 1:38 am)
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Frequently Asked Questions
Hello all,
I am taking a brief break from my house shopping and other summer demands to archive the board. In the process, I have also decided to create a "Frequently Asked Questions" area on SurLaLune to cover all of the big topic questions we see over and over again on the board from passers-by. I have started a list below, but know I am missing some of them. Does anyone have any other questions I am forgetting? And while you are at it, please feel free to share or reiterate your own answers to the questions. There is no rush since I will be working on this when my schedule allows. My goal is to finish before the new school year starts in late August/early September.
I will be including recommended reading, links, and short answers to the questions according to the demands of each.
1. Are fairy tales good or bad influences on children?
2. Where can I find the early, uncensored versions of fairy tales I have heard about?
3. What is Disney's influence on fairy tales?
4. I need help with topics for my paper. Do you have any recommendations?
5. What is the definition of a fairy tale?
6. I've written a fairy tale. How and where can I get it published?
Thanks for your help!
Heidi
Edited by: Heidi Anne Heiner at: 7/4/04 1:40 am
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Terri Windling
Registered User
(7/5/04 8:01 am)
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Re: Frequently Asked Questions
What about:
-- How can I learn more about the history of fairy tales?
(Read From the Beast to the Blonde, Touch Magic, etc. Plus on-line histories of individual tales on the SurLaLune, Endicott, and Ashliman sites.)
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midori
snyder
Registered User
(7/12/04 6:04 pm)
ezSupporter
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Re: Frequently Asked Questions
How about one which I have answered quite a few times:
Everyone talks about the Antii Arne, Stith Thompson tale type and motif index. What is it? Where do I find it? And how do I use it to find tales?
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Veronica Schanoes
Registered User
(7/13/04 10:10 am)
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Re: Frequently Asked Questions
What is the relationship between gender and fairy tales? Can you suggest some good sources on gender/feminism and fairy tales?
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redtriskell
Registered User
(7/18/04 9:29 pm)
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Re: Frequently Asked Questions
I'm still fairly new to the site. One thing I would like to see, perhaps as a corollary to definition of the fairy tale, is:
What is the difference between fairy tales and folklore? They seem to be discussed as if they were effectively interchangable. Though I have noticed that this flexibility fades when it's time for the more highly evolved academic paper. If you were feeling especially brave (and you didn't have plenty to do- ha,ha) further "difference between" questions are: myth, legend, urban legend etc., as compared to the fairy tale. I personally regard the urban legend as the most modern version of the fairy tale. If, that is, you consider one of the functions of the fairy tale to be transmission of societal standards, which I do. Just a thought. By the way, this seems like an opportune time to thank you for all the hard work you must do to keep this site going. A friend suggested it to me a couple months ago, and I haven't been able to stay away. It was wonderful to discover an intelligent discussion board, teeming with writers I admire, talking about a subject I've loved and studied for years. I don't really know how much effort it must require to begin and maintain a site like this, but it's undoubtedly very time-consuming. I, for one, am very grateful that you took the time. Thank you.
Edited by: redtriskell at: 7/18/04 9:34 pm
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Veronica Schanoes
Registered User
(7/20/04 10:09 pm)
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FAQ
Given the recent professor-student confrontation in the witch thread, as well as the threads that say things like "I have to write an essay on fairy tales, what should it be about?", perhaps the FAQ should include a bit about how to use the boards for school essays etc. I know it's in the fine print at the top of the boards, but it's so easy to miss because the print is so...fine.
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Helen J Pilinovsky
Registered User
(7/31/04 11:41 pm)
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Re: FAQ
I'd also suggest a stock response to the "graduate question" - it seems to pop up once or twice a year.
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jazmine1129
Unregistered User
(8/16/04 11:26 pm)
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FT
where can i find out the original fairy tales? :rollin
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Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(11/30/04 1:28 pm)
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FAQ on SurLaLune
I have finally started working on these pages--even I am weary of the Disney questions this time of year. So here's some links to recommend for these topics:
FAQ: Children and Fairy Tales
FAQ: Disney and Fairy Tales
FAQ: Women and Fairy Tales
Oh, and Helen, especially at your request and dedicated to you, but I need more help with it, please:
Graduate School Studies and Fairy Tales
Links to archived discussions are also included.
Note that all three pages are still under construction, but it is a start, at least.
And I will be linking to Endicott articles, too, once I get the energy to sort through that. Reading through over four years of discussion archives has taken all my SurLaLune energy for the day.
Heidi
Edited by: Heidi Anne Heiner at: 11/30/04 3:40 pm
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Terri Windling
Registered User
(12/2/04 12:13 am)
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Re: FAQ on SurLaLune
Heidi, these pages are a terrific resource, and a great way to answer these all-too-frequent questions. Thank you from all of us for your hard work.
Here are the Endicott articles that pertain to these subjects (so you don't have to sift through them all yourself!)
Women and Fairy Tales:
* Women and Fairy Tales:
www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/forwmnft.html
* Foxwives and Other Dangerous Women:
www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/fordangr.html
* The Literary Fairy Tales of France (which discusses many female fairy tale writers):
www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/forconte.html
I don't know if this is useful or not, but these articles discuss the following tales specifically as they relate to women:
* Little Red Riding Hood:
www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/rrPathNeedles.html
* Cinderella:
www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/forashs.html
* Bluebeard:
www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/forblue.html
* The Monkey Girl:
www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/forconte.html
* The Blind Man's Daughter:
www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/forblind.html
Disney and Fairy Tales
Disney is discussed in the article on Snow White:
www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/forsga.html
Edited by: Terri Windling at: 12/2/04 12:14 am
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Veronica Schanoes
Registered User
(12/2/04 3:01 am)
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Re: FAQ on SurLaLune
Oh yes, thank you Heidi! Great job!
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Erica Carlson
Registered User
(12/2/04 6:31 pm)
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Re: FAQ on SurLaLune
Heidi,
The new pages are really helpful, and well done. Thanks for all the good work. Whoever answers the next Disney question will think of you with extra gratitude and admiration.
Erica
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Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(12/3/04 5:36 am)
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Re: FAQ on SurLaLune
Thank you, everyone. And thank you for the Endicott Links, Terri! I've just added them.
If anyone else has some useful bibliographies for these pages, feel free to share, of course. I have some already, but just need the time to incorporate them.
Heidi
Edited by: Heidi Anne Heiner at: 12/3/04 6:17 am
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Helen J Pilinovsky
Registered User
(12/3/04 6:49 pm)
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Re: FAQ on SurLaLune
Dear Heidi:
This all looks *wonderful*! I can't think of any specific books that deal with the plight of the wannabe fairy tale critic, but there is one great all-purpose book that potential applicants can't go wrong with : Getting What You Came For: The Smart Student's Guide to Earning a Master's or Ph.D. (Peters, Robert L. The Noonday Press, 1997). In terms of on-line articles, Berkeley's program very thoughtfully includes a letter to prospective students of folklore on their homepage: you can find that at
ls.berkeley.edu/dept/folk...etter.html
Hope this helps a bit, and I'll try to see if I can dig up anything else specific to the discipline.
Best,
Helen
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midori snyder
Registered User
(12/6/04 8:15 pm)
ezSupporter
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Re: FAQ on SurLaLune
Wowie Heidi...these are great! And what a huge amount of work! Thanks again for this!
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Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(12/6/04 9:32 pm)
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Re: FAQ on SurLaLune
Thank you, Helen and Midori. A little late for this semester, I know, but those pages will be there for all the future ones! Wish I had thought of it earlier...
Heidi
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DawnReiser
Registered User
(12/7/04 4:53 pm)
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type tales
Go to: www.pitt.edu/~dash/folktexts....Folklore
and Mythology Electronic Texts, edited by D. L. Ashliman. It categorizes
common theme tales...Robber Bridegrooms, Aesop's Fables, Native
American Tales, etc. and offers electronic texts of the tales. It's
extremely helpful and just plain interesting.
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Helen J Pilinovsky
Registered User
(12/8/04 12:06 pm)
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Re: FAQ on SurLaLune
Also incredibly useful, the maerchenlexicon.de site ... I'm including a link to the translated-by-Google version for non-German speakers.
translate.google.com/tran...en%26lr%3D
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Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(12/10/04 12:03 am)
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Re: type tales
Thanks, Helen.
And can I just add, wow, Google is fast. A search for "women fairy tales" already produces the new "Women and Fairy Tales" page as the top hit. Same goes for "graduate school fairy tales" for a first hit of "Graduate Studies and Fairy Tales." And "effects of fairy tales on children" produces the "Children and Fairy Tales" page as the second hit. Even "Disney fairy tales" lands "Disney and Fairy Tales" on the top page of results. Builds the pressure to make sure the lists are really, really helpful. These pages have barely been live for ten days.
So I do hope the vain repetition of the same questions on this board will be lessened as a result.
Heidi
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Judy Sierra
Unregistered User
(1/9/05 4:48 pm)
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Tale type index
I included a section about tale type indexes in my book Storytellers' Research Guide. The book is available as a PDF download at:
www.libraryexpo.org/
Note: this is not my web site, and I don't know how long the PDF will be there
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