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BritishFeline
Registered User
(3/29/05 9:33 am)
Anyone remember ugly Cinderella?
She had really short brown hair. Was quite ulgy too - even when she finally got dressed up!!
I remember very little from the movie, but she seemed to like a certain spot near a pond?
It is a very old movie _ I remember it from my childhood. I would love to know the name but any help is appreciated

Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(3/29/05 11:46 am)
Re: Anyone remember ugly Cinderella?
Are you thinking of "The Glass Slipper" (1955) with Leslie Caron starring as Cinderella? It's the only version I can think of with short hair and Caron's looks are certainly a matter of taste, not being a traditional beauty.

You can read about it on Amazon.com: The Glass Slipper.

Heidi

BritishFeline
Registered User
(3/29/05 11:53 am)
Re: Anyone remember ugly Cinderella?
Hi,
Thankyou. That must be it. My sister had thought it was a ballet.
Did you ever see the cinderella version with Kathleen Turner as the step mother?
That is another one I would like to get hold of.

Veronica Schanoes
Registered User
(3/29/05 4:23 pm)
Re: Anyone remember ugly Cinderella?
Heh. That's funny. I've never thought that Caron was particularly pretty, myself. Just ask Helen Pilinovsky, who heard all about it when I last saw *American in Paris*. As I recall, I was quite indignantly wondering why on earth Gene Kelly would turn down the smokin' hot Nina Foch for Leslie Caron, whose character annoyed me.

Edited by: Veronica Schanoes at: 3/29/05 4:41 pm
Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(3/29/05 5:23 pm)
Re: Anyone remember ugly Cinderella?
And the Cinderella with Kathleen Turner was a made-for-tv movie in 2000. It's not on video or DVD. Read about it here:

imdb.com/title/tt0218891/

I was never a fan of Caron's looks although I think she looks her best in Gigi and her worst in Glass Slipper. An American in Paris ranks low on my favorite musicals list, too, since I think she and Kelly are not well-suited. I would have loved to see Cyd Charisse in the role instead. But I didn't mind her as much in Daddy-Long-Legs although Fred Astaire is way too old for her. And I really wish more of Astaire's films would make their way to DVD...

Heidi

Edited by: Heidi Anne Heiner at: 3/29/05 5:30 pm
Nalo
Registered User
(3/30/05 8:11 am)
Re: Anyone remember ugly Cinderella?
I always thought of Leslie Caron's looks as gamine, and I really like the way she looks. I sure found her sexy. Whereas Nina Foch doesn't do it for me as easily. Cyd Charisse, however, is sexy no matter what. There's a dance routine she does with Gene Kelly in which he's playing a hardboiled detective and she's the girl who comes looking for him. It has Kelly doing a voice over in which he describes her by saying, "she came at me in sections." Which doesn't sound particularly appealing until you see Charisse dance it. Wow.

Veronica Schanoes
Registered User
(3/30/05 8:26 am)
Re: Anyone remember ugly Cinderella?
My feelings about American in Paris are mixed. On the one hand, I love the first fifteen minutes, and I adore "I Got Rhythm," and the more footage of Gene Kelly dancing around in his undershirt exists in this world, the better a place it is, in my opinion. On the other hand, the plot annoys the hell out of me--he was totally into flirting with Nina Foch's character until she made a move on him! Then he drops her cold, pretty much explicitly because she took the initiative, and pursues Caron, who makes it clear to him on a number of occasions that his attentions are not wanted! Then, on the rebound, he treats Nina Foch like an ego salve. I kept waiting for her throw her drink in his face or something, but no such luck.

For me, Caron is the anti-sexy. In AiP I just felt like she sucked the chemistry out of whatever scene she was in. Cyd Charisse, though...indeed. She and Kelly dancing in "Broadway Melody" is easily one of the most erotic sequences on film. But Nalo, what is this movie to which you're referring? I'm working my way through most of Kelly's movies these days and that doesn't sound familiar. And, um, I want to see it.

Wait, I figured it out--It's Fred Astaire and Cyd Charisse in The Band Wagon, right?

Edited by: Veronica Schanoes at: 3/30/05 8:31 am
Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(3/30/05 8:46 am)
More OT: Film Musicals, because I'm having fun
It is The Band Wagon, just recently released to DVD. At last! I just bought the box set of Broadway to Hollywood since it was an excellent price. Along with Laura released this month, March has been excellent month for my DVD library.

And I agree, Veronica, my favorite Charisse and Kelley dance sequence is Broadway Melody in Singin' in the Rain. Which very much reminds me of the sequence with Astaire in Band Wagon.

And I think Caron is cute and pixie-ish, which works for me in Gigi, but not in AiP. And The Glass Slipper is so tedious that I'm not sure if I care too much either way.

Heidi

Jess
Unregistered User
(3/30/05 5:31 pm)
Still OT: Musicals
Ditto more DVD of Astaire, and Rogers - I love Golddiggers of 1933 - can't find it anywhere on DVD!

Caron was one of the French pixies (okay so A. Hepburn was Belguim) that were in vogue at that time. There is another dancer who was in On the Town, I think, that was also a short-haired French ballerina type.

Cyd Charisse is pretty much the antithesis of type to Charon. Hard to discuss the two in the same thread. Love Broadway Melody -even smoke was choreographed.

I didn't see Glass Slipper, but wasn't it Charon that played the "lover" in the "Red Shoes" in the Danny Kaye movie about HC Andersen?

Jess
Unregistered User
(3/30/05 5:44 pm)
oops
It was Jeanmaire and the musical was Anything Goes. My memory fades....

Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(3/30/05 8:39 pm)
Re: oops
Oh, yes, I want all ten of the Astaire and Rogers films on DVD very, very much. Hopefully, when it finally happens each of the dance sequences will be individual chapters so they will be easy to access. I don't watch those for the stories, just the dancing. A large portion of Gene Kelley's stuff is on DVD now, so hopefully someday the same can be said for Astaire. And hopefully one of the DVDs will include the AFI Salute to Fred Astaire as an extra.

Yes, I'm the one who had Astaire and Rogers and Audrey Hepburn on her dorm room walls in college.

Heidi

Veronica Schanoes
Registered User
(3/31/05 3:17 am)
Re: oops
It was Vera-Ellen in On the Town, who seems less pixie-ish, but on the other hand, apparently developed anorexia at some point, so perhaps she was going for pixie-ish. I didn't love her, but she was all right. I completely preferred Ann Miller, whose tapping in "Primitive Man" blew me away.

I'm too...what's the word...crude, I think, to really appreciate Astaire and Rogers. For me, there's something so much more visceral about Kelly's dancing. I never really got the Audrey Hepburn thing either, so clearly there's some kind of quiet elegance that just passes me by completely.

Personally, I want *Summer Stock* to come out on DVD.

And I love the fact that this thread has basically turned into "The MGM Movie Musical Appreciation Thread."

Edited by: Veronica Schanoes at: 3/31/05 4:07 am
AliceCEB
Registered User
(3/31/05 8:12 am)
Veering even more OT
I agree with Veronica about Kelly. I think Astaire is brilliant, but Gene Kelly... I dunno. He kind of sucks me in.

But as for Audrey Hepburn, well I've always loved her. I think it's because I always think of her as Holly Golightly from Breakfast at Tiffany's: a phony, but a real phony--brilliantly and beautifully so.

Alice

Veronica Schanoes
Registered User
(4/1/05 3:52 am)
Re: Veering even more OT
Hee. Well, I would never implicate you, Alice, in my own superficiality, but I know exactly what it is about Kelly that sucks me in and that I find lacking in Astaire. As a friend of mine once said, Kelly was sex on legs.

I think my inability to appreciate Hepburn comes from an antipathy toward the waif/pixie look and persona in general. My taste in old female movie stars runs toward Lauren Bacall and Marlene Dietrich, more femme fatale than pixie.

AliceCEB
Registered User
(4/1/05 8:00 am)
Re: Veering even more OT
Oh, implicate away...

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