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shiara
the witch
Registered User
(1/13/04 8:29 pm)
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tales with thieves or sirens
I want to write an original story with a thief and a siren, or at least part siren. Are there any fairy tales that deal with either one? I want my story to keep to the fairy tale feel as much as possible, so need refrences to work from. I am also going to have something about invisibility, but that will probably be easier to find information on, or make up if I have to.
Also what are some good quest stories. What I am working on now has a prince going on a quest to rescue the princess. He must go through a insequre witch who sets him tasks, a dragon who he must beat, and a dwarf. I need to think of something for the witch to make him do, and for the dwarf to do. At first I had him doing a riddel, but I have used that before, and besides I am terrible of thinking of riddeles. The witch may ask him to do something like get her a mirror that makes her look beautiful or something.
Any one know of some tales that could help me with either story?
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Valkith
Registered User
(1/14/04 4:30 pm)
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Re: tales with thieves or sirens
The quest one, something sprang to mind when you mentioned an insecure witch.
The Wizard of Oz.
It always struck me as strange that Glenda this supposed 'Good' witch, didn't bother to tell Dorthy that she could always go home once she had the ruby slipers, it wasn't until Dorthy removed Glenda's remaing rival, the Wicked Witch of the West, that Glenda tells Dorthy how to go home.
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Niniane
Sunyata
Registered User
(1/15/04 12:29 am)
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Re: tales with thieves or sirens
Most of the thief stories I can think of is from the Thousand
and One Nights. But, there's also Jack and the Beanstalk and
you could consider the Harp a siren. Hmmph, but you could also consider
the tales of the same type as the Firebird or the Golden Fleece
"thief" stories because even though there are "heroic
types" in it, they do, ultimately have to "steal"
something. And then, there's "Puss in Boots".
Anita Harris.
Terra Mythogene
www.mythopoetica.com
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Rupetta
Unregistered User
(1/21/04 1:12 am)
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The Robber Maid
One of my favourite stories of a robber was called The Robber Maid, it concerned a young girl who befriended another young girl with 'teeth as fierce as fox-teeth' who kept a knife tucked into her boot. I really enjoyed the quiet violence of the story - the sense that the protagonist (a 'good' girl) was playing with her own dark side/desires in sleeping beside her little playmate and admiring her agility with the small blade.
n
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Niniane
Sunyata
Registered User
(1/21/04 2:18 am)
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Re: The Robber Maid
That sounds a bit like the Robber Maid in "The Snow Queen" ...?
Anita Harris.
Terra Mythogene
www.mythopoetica.com
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Rupetta
Registered User
(1/21/04 2:38 am)
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Re: The Robber Maid
Yes Niniane, thanks for pointing that out to me - I had the sense as I was writing it that there was a connection to another tale. nevertheless the one I remember was a complete and separate tale of two girls with a terrible shared secret - I will try to look it up when I get into my home office on the weekend!
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Niniane
Sunyata
Registered User
(1/22/04 12:08 am)
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Re: The Robber Maid
I'd be intrigued in another Robber Maid tale, she was one of my
favourite characters in "The Snow Queen", plus I have
strange images in my head leftover from Atwood's "Robber Bride"
(yes, I know she was referencing the Robber Bridegroom)
Anita Harris.
Terra Mythogene
www.mythopoetica.com
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Rosemary
Lake
Registered User
(1/23/04 11:55 pm)
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"Pinkell the Thief"
There's a story "Pinkell the Thief" about a boy who rows across a lake to an island to steal some treasures from a witch. He goes three times, so by the third she is pretty insecure. :-)
This is probably in Lang and also in some book by Joseph Jacobs.
R.
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Angel
Feather
Registered User
(3/2/04 10:12 pm)
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Healing
The mention of the quest made me think of the Fisher King who is wounded. Maybe the witch needs some kind of healing in which an herb is needed and the riddle gives him a clue as to which herb needs to be gathered for her. Maybe it needs to be taken from a magical location such as a waterfall where he encounters the dwarf. Sirens singing, do they lead him to danger or do they lead him in the moonlight to a place of power?
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