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ceanalta26
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(4/27/04 3:35 pm)
irish folktales
Hi everyone. I'm new to the list....I'm trying to write a paper comparing an Irish fairy tale to a traditional fairy tale. I was thinking about comparing "The Twelve Geese" by Patrick Kennedy to the Grimm's "The Six Swans." I can use any school of criticism I want other than feminism and i have to trace a common element or theme in the tales (which is the easy part, the brothers turn into birds). I'm having trouble finding any resources comparing Irish tales to any Grimms tales, not just these ones in particular. Does anyone have suggestions as to where i can find research? Please let me know.

Thanks,
Megan

redtriskell
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(4/28/04 10:38 pm)
re: Irish Folktales
I must begin by saying I am not a scholar; however, Celtic fairy tales are my favorites. So- Yeats, of course, was the man who brought many Irish tales to the modern reader. His book " Irish Fairy and Folk Tales" has multiple versions of some stories which might be useful to you. In particular, the story "Children of Lir" contains the theme of children being turned into swans, though the story is a little different. Also, there are several discussions comparing European tales to Celtic ones in the notes of a wonderful illustrated book called " Classic Celtic Fairy Tales" by John Matthews. Some other resources for general comparisons might be found in the mythic studies of Joseph Campbell. Trust me- once you've read anything by him, you will never look at a fairy tale, myth, folk story, or urban legend the same way again. (it's good,though-I swear) I hope this puts you on the track you would like to be on. I'm positive other people will have other, more specific suggestions. Terri Windling offers wonderful and very specific books and articles.

AliceCEB
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(4/29/04 7:16 am)
Re: Irish Folktales
Why not feminism?

ceanalta26
(4/29/04 3:47 pm)
irish tales
Thank you!! redtriskell for your suggestions I will look into John Matthews, I hadn't come across him yet and also try the work of Joseph Campbell and see if i can find anything useful.

And Alice, as for why not feminism, only because I have written a paper using the critique of feminism already and in our class we cannot use the same school of criticism twice. Otherwise I would have definately written another feminist analysis paper.

Erica Carlson
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(4/30/04 10:16 am)
Re: irish tales
You may have all you need by now, but just in case--
Joseph Jacobs also has a book called Celtic Fairy Tales, and another called More Celtic Fairy Tales.
Isn't Kate Crackernuts a Celtic tale? I was just thinking of some possible ties and contrasts between that one and Snow White and Rose Red.
I imagine you could get as wild as you wanted with psychoanalytic criticism, 'specially if you chose one aspect of it--mourning and melancholy, the uncanny, etc. I have several problems with Freud, but he can be fun to work with on projects like this.
Good luck choosing tales and lit. crit.
Erica

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