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PSYCHrmd
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(5/8/03 10:56 pm)
Origin of Fairytales
Hello! This is the first time I've posted on this board, but I'm doing a research project on the origin of fairytales (Cinderella, Red Riding Hood - the ones by Perrault, Andersen, and the Brothers Grimm). I'm also looking briefly into how fairytales affect us psychologically, and the difference between the morals that fairytales aimed to teach us then, vs. what they teach us now. I've take a load of books from the library, but none of them go very far back in time... I saw an earlier post that some fairytales have Egyptian and Chinese origins! help please
(Also, did fairytales become "kiddy" oriented with Disney, or did it occur earlier?)

Thanks!
(p.s. My e-mail's petzpost@hotmail.com)

Gregor9
Registered User
(5/9/03 7:29 am)
Re: Origin of Fairytales
See if your library has a copy of Graham Anderson's Fairy Tales in the Ancient World. While that won't answer all your questions (I don't believe any source will), it does suggest how some of these stories likely assembled over time, and just how far back you can trace elements of them.

Greg

PSYCHrmd
Registered User
(5/11/03 4:58 pm)
Re: Origin of Fairytales
thanks for the pointer! Unfortunately, the only copy in British Columbia is a loooooooong way away! @.@

Rose Deo
Unregistered User
(5/12/03 1:15 pm)
Origins of Fairy tales
You might like to try Christa Kamanetsky's "The Brothers Grimm and their critics. Folktales and the quest for meaning." (1992) Ohio University Press. It is a very scholarly work and has a good discussion about the various theories of origin right back to the early monogenetic theories of origin.

hope that helps

Rose

Rosemary Lake
Registered User
(5/18/03 5:24 pm)
Re: Origin of Fairytales
You might make the topic a more manageable size by defining a subset of tales, perhaps with certain characteristics we now associate with the term 'fairy tale'. Max Luthi would be a good place to start. He has some very good short readable books with much wisdom in them, imo. They should be in most libraries, and in print in paperback iirc.

Once Upon a Time On the Nature of Fairy Tales

Fairytale As Art Form and Portrait of Man



Rosemary
www.rosemarylake.com

Mary
Unregistered User
(6/3/03 6:01 pm)
Disney and children
since no one else mentioned this: the connecting of children to fairy tales is one thing that Disney can not be blamed for. Tolkien complained about its occurence in the Victorian era, and many of the revisions the Grimm brothers did in their later editions were specifically to make them suitable for children.

For some definations of the word suitable.

PSYCHrmd
Registered User
(6/7/03 6:57 pm)
Re: Disney and children
I was wondering if this would be a valdi historical overview:
discussing the time period before Perrault > about the oral traditions + similarities in other cultures > then the influence of Perrault, Andersen, and the Grimms > and then to the "disneyfication" or fairy tales

I'm having trouble with the Disneyfication part, can you anybody suggest good websites?

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