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Elephantschild
Registered User
(7/25/03 9:10 pm)
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High Cucaloris, has anyone ever hear of this?
Hello
I'm new here I've wandered through before but never participated till now. I was wondering if anyone could give me any info on this or where i could find out more about it. The High Cucaloris is a lighting term from the movie industry it means a piece of wood that is cut out to create patterns of light and shadow when placed in front of a light. But I was told that it is a holdover from the theater. Anyway it is supposed to be from a fairytale or folktale that was about a monster? who was invisible except from the corner of your eye as a shadow with no source, or that you could only see its shadow I am not too sure, my father, who works as a studio electrician told me about this but he couldn't find out much, most of the people who he works with have no idea what the word means or where it came from. I tried a Google search and came up with zip, so I thought I would try here and see if I have better luck. If anyone could help with this I would really appreciate it. Thanks
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Rosemary
Lake
Registered User
(7/25/03 11:03 pm)
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High Coca-Lorum in Oz
There's a High Coca-Lorum in THE LOST PRINCESS OF OZ, but he's not at all like what you describe. He's not a monster (tho he belongs to an odd race), just a sort of politician. High Coca-Lorum is the title of his job.
R.
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Elephantschild
Registered User
(7/25/03 11:30 pm)
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Re: High Coca-Lorum in Oz
Hi
thats something i havn't read The Lost Princess of Oz so it's new info which is always good. It is heartening to get a response so fast and you never know there might be some connection its worth checking out at least. I'll have to look into it, it would be nice to lay this to rest it has been bugging me for a long time Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
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Jane Yolen
Unregistered User
(7/25/03 11:43 pm)
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Vaguely
I vaguely remember Hi-@#%$-alarum being a phrase from either English balladry or story, which would predate Oz, and therefore would have been the reason Baum used it.
But have no way here in Scotland to chase that down.
Jane
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Nalo
Registered User
(7/26/03 11:18 am)
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Re: Vaguely
I think I first came across the phrase "high cockalorum" in Kingstley's _The Water Babies,_ but I've pretty much forgotten the book now, and so can't remember in what context I might have read it. But a Google search under that spelling will give you quite a few hits. It seems that it may refer to the phenomenon of the @#%$ seeking the highest place in the barnyard from which to survey his domain and prove his superiority by being higher up than anyone else. The phrase seems to carry a bit of mockery in it; the sense of someone who's "king" of a very small kindgom indeed.
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Jane Yolen
Unregistered User
(7/26/03 11:24 am)
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A rooster???
Wow--the word c**k has been excized in all our posts. That is truly bizarre.
Jane
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Nalo
Registered User
(7/26/03 12:01 pm)
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Re: A rooster???
*chuckle* you're right; it's gone. I originally wrote c*o*c*k* cause I couldn't think of the more polite word. And the programme turned the word into gobbledy gook. So I guess we don't get to talk about cocktails, either? @#%$ soup? (The Jamaican version of chicken soup). Can we say plain and simple "penis?" Tom Tit Tot? For that matter, will the "gook" in "gobbledy gook" show up?
Enquiring minds want to know...
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Jane Yolen
Unregistered User
(7/26/03 9:50 pm)
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Cock-and-bull story
Tit and penis seem to go through fine. Wonder whether princess Aurora can prick her finger on a spindle?
This certainly makes the censors even more laughable than before. Especially since I get plenty of spam email with the word in LARGE letters.
Jane
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Nalo
Registered User
(7/27/03 4:47 am)
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Re: Cock-and-bull story
I was watching a television station in San Diego the other day that blanked the word *a*s*s*h*o*l*e out of the movie I was watching, but let the word *b*i*t*c*h go through.
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briggsw
Unregistered User
(7/27/03 9:22 am)
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Found something!
I found this: "Cucaloris - derived from the Greek Kukaloris: the breaking up of light"
on this page:
home.btclick.com/showlitelx/faq.htm
Can't vouch for it, but ain't Internet cool?
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Ron McCutchan
Unregistered User
(7/31/03 1:51 pm)
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Out of the corner of the eye
Being a theatre person, I knew what a "cookie" was but never knew the Greek derivation of cucaloris. Too bad it doesn't have a great folk origin (unless someone else has found it?) If it's not in a fairy tale, it SHOULD be (sounds like something out of Neil Gaiman's NEVERWHERE, doesn't it?).
By coincidence, I've been reading Holly Black's TITHE, and she has a nice play on being able seeing through a glamour out of the corner of the eye--the question being whether one of the faeries was naked under his glamour, or whether he was wearing some form of clothes (though not what appeared in the glamour).
Ron
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