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Maria
Unregistered User
(12/30/02 12:57:26 pm)
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New Interstitial Arts Magazine
Hi All,
Thought this might be a good place to mention the debut of a new webzine devoted to myth and the interstitial arts. Issues are open to myth/legend/fairytale/themed stories and poetry, as well as those pieces which defy description. We hope to encourage new writers and would love to have feedback, especially from the group here at Sur La Lune!
Maria
www.mytholog.com
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JaNell
Registered User
(12/30/02 1:34:35 pm)
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Rights?
Your site's submissions page says that you require "First World and Electronic Publications Rights"...
I'm still learning about rights, but doesn't that mean that your magazine would also get First World Print rights, as well?
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Maria
Unregistered User
(12/30/02 3:47:38 pm)
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Rights
Good question! I'm just a lowly editor not dealing with the business issues. We are strictly an online magazine though, if that helps. But I will definitely find that out since I also write and submit to other magazines as well...
Maria
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JaNell
Registered User
(12/30/02 5:12:14 pm)
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Thanks
Do, because, well, giving up that many rights for no pay...
I just can't do it at this point.
Not that I'm stuck on pay; I'll gladly submit to one that doesn't pay...
if it's the right one!
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asherblack
Registered User
(12/30/02 8:05:47 pm)
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publication rights
What we intend with "First world and electronic publication rights" is simply that we are the first to publish it. i.e. We're not going to reprint from a print publication. It's basically saying "First publication rights. Period." without distinction between regions or media. As I say, that's out intent.
-- Asher Black
asher@mytholog.com
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JaNell
Registered User
(12/30/02 9:41:43 pm)
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Rights
But then, I can't sell the first Print rights to anyone else. Anywhere in the world. Hmm.
While I whole-heartedly endorse the concept of anything on the internet as "published" (I've only yet been published on the web, but it was pro, yay!), it's still quite separate from "print" in my mind. Doesn't asking for first world print rights give you the right to publish the work in physical form whenever you want - and until you *do*, the author can't let anyone else publish it in print, because you get to first? That could lock up people's work forever. I suppose you could release the print rights back to the author, but then, why bother asking for them if you plan to do that? "No re-prints" seems clear enough.
It seems like that would put an awful lot of people's work into a position of *only* being seen on your site - ever - unless, of course, your magazine published a print edition with their story in it, with no pay to *them*, thereby releasing their work to be sold as a *reprint* both electronically and in print. Of course many places don't accept reprints, so...
Anywho, that's how I read it.
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asherblack
Unregistered User
(1/1/03 3:54:00 pm)
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rights
Well, we are certainly open to a revision of the wording. The goal is not to keep anyone from running it in print. Merely that, for at least 6months, it isn't run anywhere else and that when it is, print or otherwise, proper reprint notation is made.
I suppose we could insert a note that if it hasn't appeared in print within 6months (from us), then it can be printed elsewhere. But I'm uncomfortable with that, because then it's not a reprint if you publish it in, say, ANALOG. It's a "first print".
You see what I'm getting at. Our current phrasing is for clarity, and for eliminating a distinction between publication in print and publication electronically, for reprint purposes elsewhere.
When we say First World and Electronic, we mean the "and" to be a clarification of First World Publication rights to include electronic publication. We could, of course, write First Word/Electronic Publication Rights. That would probably do it.
As far as I'm concerned, after 6months of being published in MYTHOLOG, the material can be reprinted anywhere you like, with the proviso that it is noted as a reprint.
If there is anyone here familiar with the phraseology at other online publications who have the policy we're wanting, we'd certainly be interested in examples. As I say, they need to be examples in which a later appearance in print is still considered a reprint.
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asherblack
Registered User
(1/1/03 4:01:47 pm)
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Rights
Also, notice we haven't said First Print, so I'm wondering if this is a non-issue. We said First World and Electronic. In other words, we haven't made any distinction in the type of publishing. We've basically said, we're the first to publish it, in whatever medium. I think this means the rights to reprint - in whatever medium - revert back to the author at 6months from publication. Basically, I'm pretty sure we've worded it correctly and that that's what it means.
One other note: Currently we aren't paying the writers, but we do plan to as soon as we can. We're looking for ad sponsorship sufficient enough to do that. It's not our intent to see writers get nothing from their work. What we are thinking right now is that once we can afford to be a paying publication, the current writers will still have the benefit of having been published in what has become a paying venue. In other words, the publication credit, at least, will be worth something. Even then, we're not going to be a pro market. At least not in the near future. The payment will be an honorarium, or what is sometimes called "nominal", though the worth of the fact of payment is probably greater than the possible amount of payment. At least, that's how I see it.
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