A few quick links:

www.mythinglinks.org/euro...tales.html
[Added 24 June 2001: If you are wondering why so few women are represented in the traditional fairy tale "canon," I urge you to get Wayne State University Press' The Reception of Grimms' Fairy Tales: Responses, Reactions, Revisions, edited by Donald Haase, and read the brilliant paper by Shawn Jarvis ("Trivial Pursuit? Women Deconstructing the Grimmian Model in the Kaffeterkreis") on the reaction of the first generation of girls to be "socialized" by the Grimms' stories. Also don't miss Haase's essay, "Response and Responsibility in Reading Grimms' Fairy Tales," especially his section on feminist critic, Karen Rowe.

http://aol.bartleby.com/65/ge/Germanli.html

So far, most other results are course syllabi that only have brief, generalized mentions of the words "German," Romantics"/"Romanticism," and "fairy tale"/"folktale." Actually, your article "The Green Man and the Green Woman" popped up as the top result for +German +romantics +"fairy tale" +sites on Altavista. Will try more later.

Dandelion wishes,

Kerrie

(Just noticed I linked to what you were already talking about . Will keep looking!)

Edited by: Kerrie at: 7/30/02 6:48:46 am

Terri,

thank you for the explanation, sounds very interesting! I am definitely going to look into that soon and try to find some German sources for the ladies... Even over here the Grimm's overshadow everything, with a few others thrown in for good measure, but the ladies remain in the background - with one or two exceptions such as Bettina von Arnim, who would most likely be unknown as well if not for her brother Achim.

Regarding Names and dates: If you post them, I'll try to help - if I am not familiar with the names, I can look them up in German sites (or the good old printed version).

Best regards, Lotti

Armed with Terri's explanation, I started a web search and found this link on Gisela von Arnim (in German):

http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/autoren/arnimg.htm

I know some of you speak German, so I thought I post it anyway. There is also a picture of Gisela von Arnim.

Roughly, the article says that Gisela was the youngest child of Bettine and Achim von Arnim (ouch, her husband, not her BROTHER, as I wrote before...) and that she grew up among the romatic writers. She was taught at home by her elder sisters Maxe and Armgard who used mostly fairy tales and "Fibeln" (first reading) for their lessons. Gisela was especially intersted in Wilhelm Hauff. The first things she wrote were fairy tales. Together with her sisters, she founded the Kaffeter-Kreis (as a "Virgin order" - I quote this from the text!!). Later on, they became a literary salon and also accepted male participants; honourary members were Hans Christian Andersen and Emmanuel Geibel. Gisela married Herman Grimm, a son of Wilhelm, in 1859.

Will go on searching!

Here is a link from Switzerland that gives birth and death date for Gisela von Arnim and links to an online version of her fairy tale "Das Leben der Hochgräfin Gritta von Rattenzuhausbeiuns" (pictures!):

http://www.lesenews.ch/de/autoren/detail.cfm?ID=13

Enjoy!

"I know some of you speak German, so I thought I post it anyway."

For those who don't speak German, you can get a translation (albeit a poor one) at Babblefish by pasting the link in the field (you can also translate words, and other languages):

http://www.babblefish.com/babblefish/bfish_lang.htm

Not the best solution, but for general info, it can help.

Dandelion wishes,

Kerrie

Lotti, Kerrie: Thanks so much for the links. Between these and a borrowed copy of The Oxford Companion to Fairy Tales (since mine is back in the U.S.), I was able to double-check all my info...and found that it was all sound, I'm glad to say.

Thanks very much!