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nancyterrell
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(2/3/02 12:10:45 pm)
Realm of the Ring Lords
This is the first post I have made to this group so please forgive me if I am bringing up a subject already discussed. I have just finished reading Laurence Gardner's Realm of the Ring Lords. In it he states that fairy tales developed as a recognized genre with the coming of the unacceptance of anything other than official doctrine by the Roman Catholic Church. These stories, or fairy tales, depicted real events that were made into tales so they would not be lost - much like the use of Tarot cards for the same purpose. Would anyone like to comment on this for me.
Thank You

janeyolen
Unregistered User
(2/3/02 12:47:26 pm)
danger
I always think it's dangerous (and a bit pompous) to make a blanket statement about anything as fluid as the folk culture.

Certainly some fairy stories are memory aids, or tarted up true stories. Some are pure fancy. Some are allegorical at base. Some are for entertainment only. Some carry the law of the land. Some set down the religious parameters of a world. Some warn of the foreigners amongst us.

Etcetera and etcetera and etcetera.

Jane

nancyterrell
Registered User
(2/4/02 1:15:45 pm)
Re: danger
Jane -
I quite agree with you and Gardner is pompous but the book is quite fascinating. Have you read it? I would really enjoy hearing someone comment on this that has actually read it.
I would highly recommend it for an entirely new concept to fairy tales.
Thank you,
Nancy
dcooper@surfbvi.com

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janeyolen
Unregistered User
(2/4/02 1:24:26 pm)
pomposity
No, I haven't read it, and it was very pompous of me to critique something without reading it! (You were right to call me on that.) But from the description above, I wasn't likely to go running to the bookstore to get it, either.

Jane

Carrie
Unregistered User
(2/5/02 7:26:20 pm)
fairy tale instruction
I have one quick comment. I haven't read the book, but I can see a correlation to the Navajo story cycles. I'm currently working on a piece that follows the trail of Monster Slayer across Navajoland. The Navajo actually see the land as a sort of Bible. These stories tell of events that have left their mark on the land. For example -- Monument Valley is really an ancient battleground and the hoodoos and other rock formations are the remains of defeated monsters. This is a bit different than fairy tales, because this is part of their creation story. Call it a myth or folklore and you'll have some irritated people calling you on it. However, I doubt you'll get a call from Sleeping Beauty.

Carrie

eearth
Registered User
(2/6/02 11:57:12 am)
fairy tales & reality
Yes, the Laguna Pueblo also have a "spiritual geography" that involves mountains and other features around their area. It's very complicated and beautiful.

I haven't heard about fairy tales' connections to reality, but would be interested in having a look at that book, just out of curiosity.

Elise

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