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leah
Unregistered User
(5/16/02 12:34:44 pm)
faery
ok this doesn't really have to do with fairy tales, but does any one know of any fiction books that take place in faery. Like child of faery child of earth, stardust, etc.

Richard Parks
Registered User
(5/17/02 8:55:49 am)
Re: faery
"The King of Elfland's Daughter" by Lord Dunsany, for one. "Kingdoms of Elfin" by Sylvia Townsend Warner, for another. There are lots of them scattered about.

Terri
Registered User
(5/17/02 1:18:39 pm)
Re: faery
Just off the top of my head: Ellen Kushner's Thomas the Rhymer. Patricia A. McKillip's The Winter Rose, The Book of Atrix Wolfe, and Something Rich and Strange. Lisa Goldstein's Strange Devices of the Sun and Moon.

Samantha
Registered User
(5/17/02 4:43:42 pm)
Re: faery
Perhaps you might enjoy 'Daughter of the Forest' (as well as its enchanting sequels) by Juliet Marillier, it takes place in eighth century Ireland just as the veil of perception separated us from Faery (It's also a retelling of 'Six Swans,' gotta have fairy tales in there somewhere). Books like Pamela Dean's 'Tam Lin' and Nancy Springer's 'Fair Peril' also blur the boundary to Faery, but in more contemporary settings. Hope this helps!

Samantha

Jane Yolen
Unregistered User
(5/18/02 4:00:44 am)
Books
Am working now on a book with my son Adam for Scholastic based on Hamelin in which the piper is a prince of the Shidh and brings the chikldren into Faerie. It has several titles right now--Brass Rat, Pay the Piper, and Ratter.

My book BOOTS & THE SEVEN LEAGUERS also takes place in Faerie. It's subtitled A Rock and Troll novel.

Jane

Paradigm8 
Registered User
(6/13/02 6:57:38 am)
Re: Books
It's a read that is taking me years -- I keep losing the path, only to pick it up again and suddenly say to myself, "Ah ha! I know that now" or "oh! that's what that image meant" -- but it does take place in Faery, or something closely related to it. Moonwise by Greer Ilene Gilman. It is quite strange both on a narrative level and on a language use one, but both strangenesses are pleasant.

There's also a lot of great stuff in the "bleed over" catagory, that is to say, bits of the human world bordering with Faery and getting strange and magical by the contact. Since the original question didn't ask for those, I'll shush.

P8

reading:Jack of Kinrowan by Charles de Lint
listening to: In the Garden of Souls by VAS

Judith Berman
Registered User
(6/13/02 10:35:34 am)
Re: Books
And there is LITTLE, BIG: the further in you go, the bigger it gets.

Another interesting, if (for me) ultimately unsatisfying book set on the border of faerie: THE WEALDWIFE'S TALE by Paul Hazel.

erzebet
Registered User
(6/13/02 11:49:10 am)
Re: Books
You might try Phantastes, by George MacDonald.

Erz

Gregor9
Registered User
(6/13/02 11:51:54 am)
Re: Books
I would add to this list Hope Mirlees' LUD-IN-THE-MIST, where faery has some darker shadings.

Greg

Jane Yolen
Unregistered User
(6/14/02 2:22:21 am)
Faerie
And Deborah Turner Harris' Caledon books in which Faery mixes with an alternate Scotland.
And of course there's Tolkien. But you knew that.


Jane

AM
Registered User
(6/14/02 7:12:20 am)
Fire and Hemlock
I just finished Fire and Hemlock by Diana Wynne Jones which doesn't so much take place in faery, but just down the street. It is a blending of the Tam Lin and Thomas the Rhymer legends.
-- Anna Marie

Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(6/14/02 9:45:09 am)
Re: Fire and Hemlock
I've always liked Emma Bull's "War for the Oaks" and its interactions with faery.

Heidi

leah
Unregistered User
(7/3/02 2:44:33 pm)
thanks any more
that helped a lot, does any one else know of any more?

rachael
Unregistered User
(7/15/02 9:26:48 pm)
faery
faerie tale raymond e feist,kiss of shadows laurell k
hamilton

Terri
Registered User
(7/18/02 1:04:38 am)
Re: faery
There's also "Photographing Fairies" by Steve Syzilagy (the book on which the film of the same name was based). I didn't think it was very well written, but apparently other folks did since it won the World DFantasy Award.

Also, The Door in the Hedge, a good collection of stories by Robin McKinley. The title story involves fairies.

Imaginary Lands, an anthology edited by McKinley, contains a fairy story based on Tam Lin by Joan Vinge.

I edited an anthology called Faery back in the '80s, though that's been out of print for a long while now.

Didn't Nancy Springer write some books early in her career involving faery characters? Or am I imagining that?

Edited by: Terri at: 7/18/02 1:09:43 am
Helen
Registered User
(7/18/02 5:12:34 am)
Re: faery
I was just looking over this thread in disbelief that I'd been able to resist posting on it for so long; unbelievably, it's taken me a month to get my phone line installed in NY, so I've been keeping posts short and sweet from the campus. But now that the telephone technician has come and gone ... heh, hehe, heh...

Nancy Springer wrote _Fair Peril_, _Godmother Night_, and one with a title that I can't quite remember - Something of Silver, Something of Gold (sorry to be so unspecific) that should be relatively easy to find through Amazon. Definitely look into the works of Charles de Lint - personally, I particularly recommend _The Memory and the Dream_, _Dreams Underfoot_, and Moonlight and Vine_. He also has one that I've been searching for for years that's very evocative; it was a tiny little book, no more than one hundred pages, concerning an angsty young woman who wanders into an occult shop where she acquires a talismanic charm bracelet that carries her to the Otherworld. Anyone know a title for this one? You might also consider Merceds Lackey's novels of the Serrated Edge, all urban fantasy dealing with mechanically minded sidhe, Judith Tarr's wonderful novels of the Outremer (_The Isle of Glass_, etc.). Stephen King wrote a really good sort-of-a-fairy-tale called _The Eye of the Dragon_, and I suppose that _The Talisman_ and the _Dark Tower_ series could be argued to be set in something that is at least akin to fairy, if not exactly the same thing. Jack Vance's _Lyonesse_ series portrays a very vivid Medieval setting that borders quite close to Fairy, and Tanith Lee's _Tales of the Flat Earth_, though out of print and difficult to find, are well worth the effort. Terri's _Borderlands_ series is marvelous, though the older books are also difficult to track down ... hopefully there will be more forthcoming. The six fairy tale anthologies that Terri and Ellen Datlow published together are not to be missed ... You might also consider visiting your local library to look through the various editions of the _Year's Best Fantasy and Horror_, which frequently has stories of the type that you're looking for intermingled with every thing from splatterpunk to mannerpunk. Hope this helps!

Best,
Helen

Terri
Registered User
(7/19/02 1:18:35 am)
Re: faery
Helen, nice to have you back. Congratulations on getting settled-in in New York.

Midori
Unregistered User
(7/19/02 4:08:32 am)
good to see you
Hey Helen...I'll second Terri's welcome back! By the way what is "mannerpunk"?

Helen
Registered User
(7/19/02 4:54:19 am)
Likewise!
Dear Terri and Midori:

Thanks! It's good to be back in NY, and better to be back on the board... Mannerpunk is a term that I've heard appled to Ellen Kushner for _Swordspoint_ and to other writers for various works. As near as I can figure, it applies to contemporary works that utilize the affected mannerisms of earlier eras in the pointed way for which they were originally intended; also, as near as I can tell, it was a failed attempt to ride the coattails of splatterpunks (highly confusing) popularity into some well-deserved recognition. Hey, despite the trendiness of the latter and the failure of the former to make it into the popular lexicon, we all still know Ellen Kushner, and Delia Sherman, and Caroline Stevermer ... this could just be my distatste fot the genre, but I can't think of too many splatterpunk writers who are still popular ... (I realize that this sounds vaguely catty, but I always felt vaguely as though the "good" horror writers were shoehorned into that school just to make all of the "Violence for Violence' sake" generic authors look better. I could be horribly, egregiously, wrong.)

Best,
Helen

Gregor9
Registered User
(7/19/02 10:36:12 am)
Re: Likewise!
Helen,
Few splatterpunks are left for good reason. They helped bury the genre of horror quicker than one can say "rumplestiltskin." Between this dubious subgenre predicated on imitation not even of other literature but of gore-driven cinema (dare one suggest a certain sub-literacy to it all as well?) and the plethora of books bound in black with indeciphrable silver foil type that might as well have been cast runes as English characters, horror was fairly sucked down into quicksand of its own devising. The only genre I can think of that began life as high art and then hacked itself to pieces...which sounds so, um, splatterpunkish.

Greg

swanchick
Registered User
(7/19/02 2:36:01 pm)
Novels set in Faery
Recommendation number one among those not already mentioned, _The Perilous Gard_, by Elizabeth Pope. It's sort of a Tam Lin retelling, but we get to see much more of the faery world in it than in most Tam Lin books, because the girl also lives in Faery for a while. It's a wonderful read, with one of the cleverest endings I've ever read.

Also,
_Ill Met by Moonlight_, Sarah Hoyt (Shakespeare and faeries!)
_A Dark Horn Blowing_, Dahlov Ipcar (a young mother gets abducted into Faery to nurse the Faery Prince)
_The Black Chalice_, Marie Jakober (a jaded Crusade veteran gets lost in the woods, falls for a faery woman, and changes his whole life...there are only a few scenes actually set in Faery, but they're good)

swanchick

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