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Tigerpaw
Unregistered User
(10/16/01 5:35:43 pm)
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Concerning 'apples'.......
Dear experts,
I need your expertise and wisdom in helping me with a list of tales and lores, which has 'apple' playing a significant prop in the storyline's plot; a.k.a. Snow White, William Tell, Paris and the Trojan War.....not to forget the famous couple from our bible, etc.
Please, can someone help?
Ken
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Kerrie
Registered User
(10/16/01 6:00:15 pm)
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Re: Concerning 'apples'.......
How about the legends and lore surrounding Avalon? It means "Apple Land" or "Land of Apples" I belive. Then there's the association of the unicorn with apple trees. And Atalanta and the Golden Apples in Greek myth. I'm sure there's loads more, I'll do a search tomorrow.
Forest frosts,
Kerrie
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Jess
Unregistered User
(10/16/01 7:38:58 pm)
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apples
How about the princess on the glass hill that rolls the apples from her lap to the disguised prince? There is also a Grimm tale about a golden bird, which steals golden apples every night from a tree.
Jess
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Jess
Unregistered User
(10/16/01 8:15:51 pm)
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how 'bout them apples
Try this web site:
www.silver-branch.org/ssbapple.html
Also, how could any good American forget Johnny Appleseed?
Since apples are old world, any new world myths or legends involving apples would have to post-date the colonization of the new world. Also, have you looked at the University of Illinois extension site or the Washington Apple growers site? I have found the Washington Apple growers to be very helpful with this kind of question (really ANY apple question). Well, I checked their site and they don't have any folklore references - but that may not mean there isn't a knowledgable person on staff there. I would suggest you check it out at www.bestapples.com.
Will continue to check.
Jess
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Richard
Parks
Registered User
(10/17/01 12:21:16 pm)
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Re: how 'bout them apples
If you're going to include mythology as well as fairy tales, one of my favorites is the Apple of Discord created by the goddess Eris. Led to the Judgment of Paris (questionable) and, indirectly, to the Trojan War.
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nekoi
Registered User
(10/19/01 7:01:52 am)
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Re: how 'bout them apples
I think the original fruit in the biblical story wasn't an apple, but it was changed to an apple to create a pun w/the word 'evil'. Unfortunatly, I don't remember where I read this - maybe someone more knowledgable can verify this!
I think the first Narnia book includes apples too, if that counts...
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Charles Vess
Unregistered User
(10/21/01 6:56:49 am)
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Northern apples
Let's not forget the golden apples that perpetuated the youth and vigor of the Norse gods served to them by
Iduna.
Charles
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Lotti
Unregistered User
(10/21/01 7:57:38 am)
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Apple girl
If I remember correctly, there is a (Turkish?) fairy tale about an apple girl - one of the types where a woman desires a child "and if were only an apple" and gives birth to - guess who - an apple. As is typical, the apple takes the fancy of a prince, who takes it away with him. I am not sure, but I think he discovers that there is a girl inside. He is leaving for some time. During that time, his stepmother stabs the apple but flees when it is bleeding (I am not sure at present if she knew about the girl inside). When the prince comes home, the apple is bandaged and tended to, and the girl emerges equally bandaged. She tells him who stabbed her, justice is served and prince and apple-maiden are married. (What a surprise.)
Also, in the (Russian? Or was it from the Balkan?) tale of the 12 Months, the good girl Marushka is sent to fetch apples for her stepsister Holena and her stepmother. (The first time, it was violets, I think, the second strawberries, and the apples were the third task).
That is what I can think of right now. I am quite partial to apples (they are my favourite fruit and fruit trees), I will think a little longer on the subject and will be back if I - hah! You just have to keep on writing: Newton! I believe the story about Newton being hit by an apple and thus finding out about gravity qualifies as a legend, too. Ok, as I was saying: If I think of anything else, I'll be back.
Regards, Lotti
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tlchang37
Registered User
(10/22/01 9:21:53 am)
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Dream of apples..
Charles,
Is your "Dream of Apples" picture based on a tale as well?
Tara
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janeyolen
Unregistered User
(10/22/01 10:54:01 am)
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Iduna
years ago (I was in college) I wrote a poem that was published called "Iduna's Fruit" about Iduna who kept the apple that gave the gods eternal youth.
Jane
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Charles Vess
Unregistered User
(10/23/01 7:42:37 am)
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How about them apples...
Tara, no, my art piece, A Dream of Apples was a combined product of my own fevered imagination and Terri asking me for a green man image for her website exhibition of the same. My Mom (devout Presbyterrian that she is) asked if it was a painting of Eve in the Garden of Eden with Satan in the background!!!! For me it was the mother goddess at rest and repose with her consort the green man. The stream being the waters of inspiration flowing from his mouth and through the goddesses body and thus out into the world for all to share. It always facinates me how wildly different individual interprtations of a single image can be. I guess it's one of the things that keeps me painting such pictures. I think that's what really intrigues me as to the art of those modern fantacists we were speculating on in some previous posts. When the image is NOT based on a text source it can provide many, many individual stories with but a single image at their source. Facinating to say the least...
Charles
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Autumn
Unregistered User
(11/11/01 1:49:22 pm)
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Apple stories
There's the Grimm story "One Eye, Two Eyes, Three Eyes," in which the heroine proves her worth by being the only one who can pick the golden apples from the tree.
Pomegranites is stretching it, but if you wanted to go that far there would be the Persephone story, too.
-Julia
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