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nekoi Registered User (4/19/01 7:13:02 am) |
Re: Music Silly me. I forgot to mention A Perfect Circle. Their songs are not *based* on fairy tales but draw imagery from different myths. One of their songs is called Sleeping Beauty. |
| Gregor9 Registered User (4/20/01 10:15:36 am) |
Thanks Donna, Thanks for mentioning the performance at the Art Museum. I'll try to get there and hear them. Greg |
| CoryEllen Registered User (4/22/01 8:08:55 am) |
Mmmmmm So based on the recommendations here, I picked up Madredeus' Antologia, and I love it! Thank you to those who let me know about it! |
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Karen Unregistered User (4/23/01 3:03:57 am) |
ugh ugh ugh Ok, this is not actually a recommendation, more a curiosity. A friend of mine informs me that there is a Rammstein video clip in which Snow White uses heroin. Yes, really. He tells me it's quite good. I don't believe him! Karen. |
| CoryEllen Registered User (4/24/01 4:00:44 am) |
Re: ugh ugh ugh Francesca Lia Block wrote a retelling of Snow White in which she was a junkie too. It makes sense, when you think about it - skin as white as snow . . . The story appeared in a volume I cannot recall the title of, nor locate on my shelf, but it was subtitled something like "Erotic Fairy Tales for Women." Dorothy Allison had a gorgeous story in there, too. And Christa Faust. And various other amazing people. C-E |
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Kate Unregistered User (4/26/01 7:24:54 pm) |
Erotic Fairy Tales That was Once Upon a Time: Erotic Fairy Tales for Women (edited by Michael Ford, I think?). It's a pretty good collection. Out of print from Masquerade Books. |
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BradleyHeadstone Unregistered User (4/27/01 7:50:37 pm) |
Re: music and fairy tales When I read the subject, I immediately thought of Tori Amos, but I see you're already familiar with her work. You may also want to check out Kate Bush, to whom Tori is frequently compared. Kate often draws on English folklore in particular. For instance, the title song from her first album, "The Kick Inside," is a retelling of the traditional English "Ballad of Lizzie Wan," while "Get Out of My House" (from her "The Dreaming" album) seems partly based on on the ballad "The Twa Magicians." "The Dreaming" refers to the Dreamtime from aboriginal Australian myth, and the title track from her last CD, "The Red Shoes," is, of course, based on the Hans Christian Anderson story (or at least on the film version). As for other artists, Sophie B. Hawkins has a song called "The Ballad of Sleeping Beauty" (on her "Whaler" CD). |
| cianalouise Registered User (4/30/01 7:47:41 am) |
Re: music and fairy tales I wanted to add a group to this discussion, if I may… The Bells and Motley Consort has been a favorite of mine for a number of years now, having first seen them perform at the Sterling renaissance festival near Lake Ontario. They specialize in medieval and renaissance music. The original musical compositions they performed to accompany the Ballad of Tam Lin and another for Tristan and Iseult were really beautiful. A husbad and wife team, they are enormously knowledgeable about old songs, ballads and ancient instruments - the husband has made quite a few instruments, like a fabulous hurdy-gurdy. Their website is www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1558/ if anyone would like to check out their work. I highly recommend it… Luciana |
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Midori Unregistered User (4/30/01 9:53:09 am) |
italian, techno-celtic Hello All, I thought some of you might be interested in this wonderfully odd cd called "Fiamma Fumana". It's a techno group of three Italian singers who (ala Moby) combine Italian lyrics, Scottish music and a killer techno beat. It sounds unbearable I know, but I rather like it. Especially cut 6 and cut 9. I just noticed they have a web site...www.fiamma.org. which I'll go and check out. Also is "Lizzy Wan" a version of Polly Vaughn, she of the got killed in mistake of the swan? We had a thread on her a while back and the title caught my eye. I am collecting versions of this and BradleyHeadstone's post reminded me that this might be an alternative title...unless I am remembering wrong... |
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BradleyHeadstone Unregistered User (4/30/01 1:37:44 pm) |
Lizzie Wan "The Ballad of Lizzie [or Lucy] Wan" deals with a young woman pregnant by her brother, who then kills her. I'm not familiar with Polly Vaughn, so I don't know if it's related. Here's one version of the ballad: www.contemplator.com/child/lucywan.html |
| Gregor9 Registered User (5/1/01 6:45:51 am) |
Malicorne While I'm listening with great pleasure to Garmarna (thanks to the board for introducing me to this music), I'm reminded of another terrific group now vanished from the landscape: the French folk group Malicorne. They flourished in the 70s and 80s, and I think disbanded in the late 80s. Hannibal Records used to carry some of their music on CD, and it's all very fine--a Breton mix of Steely Span and Gryphon influences, some modern effects and beats but with crumhorns, rebcs and autoharps as well. It's a nice journey. And I sure do miss Kate Bush, left as we are with her various inferior clones. GF |
| Sharlit Registered User (5/1/01 8:00:02 am) |
folk-techno... Another that came to me, if you like real *fusion* fusion folk. Martyn Bennet. "Bothy Culture", his first biggish release is a crazy mix of indian (as in, from India) and Celtic music with a strong elecronica backbeat. It's fantastically catchy. Also, as anyone who has been to Canada lately for any prolonged period of time can attest, those wacky east-coasters have been churning out traditional-electric bands like mad. Also excellent for the dance-folk enthousiast: Ashley MacIssaac's "Hi, How Are You Today?" Natalie McMaster's "No Boundries", though "My Roots are Showing" has been getting a lot of press. Barage (anything, I don't know if they've a whole album out yet. Just specials on the CBC) Anyway... etc, Charlotte, who listens to far too much music, but thinks that Lal Waterson ought to be cannonized. |
| DonnaQ Registered User (5/1/01 11:18:50 pm) |
And more... Cape Breton singer Mary Jane Lamond does a breath-taking job of perpetuating traditional music, often from sources that are solidly entrenched in roots that go way back. (BTW - Ashley MacIsaac puts in a guest appearance on "Suas e!") For a romping good listen, try Great Big Sea. These Newfoundland lads aren't just musically talented - they all have degrees in things like History and English and their connection to things past always shows up in their music, which contrives to be thoroughly delightful as well as masterfully arranged and executed. Charlotte - you aren't the only one who listens to a lot of music! I just got back from checking out a band straight from Scotland called Old Blind Dogs. It was an evening filled with lovely a cappella offerings, charming antidotes and the sweet mix of voice, drums, guitar, pipes and fiddle from another talented group that does both traditional and original material. After the show, I got into a conversation with the bass player about how art, music and myth maintain links to the past, but are changed in ways that are relevant to specific cultures / societies. It was definitely interesting! Midori - I couldn't help but bite on the techno-celtic link you suggested. FF offers the tune "Lilt" to download from their site and - as hard as it was to imagine the combination of musical influences - I also liked it. It has a great beat and you can really dance to it, as they say... Thanks for the tip! Speaking of tips - for those of you who groove to the link between music, writing, art, and the fantastic, and aren't already familiar with it, be sure and check out "The Horns of Elfland." It's out of print, but well worth the effort of tracking down. Terri's wonder-filled tale, "The Color of Angels" is one of many superb stories that explore the magic of music. |
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Terri Unregistered User (5/2/01 6:07:33 am) |
music Ah, you're mentioning a lot of bands and musicians I really love -- Natalie McMaster particularly, Ashley McIssac, Great Big Sea, Old Blind Dogs...there are so many terrific bands around, we're spoiled rotten these days. Not like the bad old days of the Seventies, when good trad music was still hard to come by...but probably half of you on this board were still in diapers then.... : - ) Anyway, don't forget Shooglenifty out of Scotland for anyone who likes trad fusion, and Kila out of Ireland. Those boys kick butt. And Brother, from Australia, finally has a new CD out, This Way Up. In the weird-but-good catagory, there's also Salsa Celticia's The Great Scottish Latin Adventure, which is more Scottish than Latin, a better mix than it sounds. Greg, I remember Malicorne -- in fact, I think you gave me the tape I have of them, with Gryphon on the other side. Another good band of the same vintage is Pye Wackett. Mark Emerson, formerly of Pye Wackett, has a terrific new CD out of early English music on voilin, viola, double bass, and button accordion (played by the amazing Andy Cutting) -- the band (well, trio) is called 1651; the CD is called Cast a Bell; and it's on the Beautiful Jo Records label. Mark is June Tabor's partner, so you can also hear his music on a lot of her recordings. |
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Jenna Unregistered User (5/3/01 11:18:32 am) |
music Thank you all for this discussion. I'm in need of some new music. And I'd like to add a recommendation, which is for any CD by Connie Dover, she of the angelic voice. |
| CoryEllen Registered User (5/4/01 4:58:00 pm) |
Re: music I don't actually know if Angelique Kidjo's music contains folklore references or not, as she sings in an African language that I don't know (she's from Benin, and no, it's not French). However, for all the people here who like traditional/worldbeat/dance-able music, I highly, highly recommend her. Hummingly yours, Cory-Ellen |
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Terri Unregistered User (5/5/01 6:30:37 am) |
music Thanks, Cory-Ellen, I'm going to go track Kidjo's CD down; it sounds good. Another terrific CD of African music, of a more gentle, lyrical nature, is "C'est la vie" by Henri Dikongue from Cameroon. This one has rarely been off my CD player in the last year; it's just lovely. And it *is* in French. |
| Heidi Anne
Heiner ezOP (5/23/01 5:41:47 pm) |
Great Big Sea Okay, This board never ceases to bring goodness into my life. I went and listened to Great Big Sea and instantly became a fan. Now the only problem is the possibility that my husband will hide my CDs to preserve his sanity after a zillion playings. I am still investigating other artists listed here that I haven't heard yet. Thanks once again to everyone for the recommendations. Heidi |
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Lotti Unregistered User (5/23/01 11:44:50 pm) |
Music and fairy tales Hi everyone, browsing through all your answers to that question, I found that no one had included classical music - of course, it's a question of taste, but as I'm quite partial to it I thought I'd just add some hints in that direction. The ballets popped first in my mind, Tschaikowskys (no idea how to spell it in English, sorry) "Sleeping Beauty" and "Swan lake" and Prokofievs "Cinderella". Running a close second the opera that is (almost) every German theatres choice for a christmas production (get imaginative, guys!!): "Hänsel und Gretel" by Humperdinck. You might want to include Mozarts "Zauberflöte" or even Wagners "Flying Dutchman". Oh, and I have just one question: How is it, that every one who is into fairy tales has a liking for Celtic music and stuff?) (me included) Lotti |
| Gregor9 Registered User (5/25/01 5:33:05 am) |
Re: Music & fairy tales Lotti, The specious answer to your question is, it's in the blood. (Well, okay, maybe that isn't so specious.) On the prolix side... Like you, I'm a lover of the Russian composers,both in and out of fairy tale mode--Mussorgski, Prokofiev, Tschaikovski, Shostakovich, Borodin.... My introduction to classical music was by way of fantasy--a retelling of the story of the Trojan War on an old 78RPM record, set to the music of Prokofiev's "Love for Three Oranges." That and his "Scythian Suite" are two of my absolute favorite classical pieces, and both have fairy tale cores. But I'm a musical omnivore, and I hope that means I remain open to good music in all its forms. But maybe the romantic in me is being worked on by both the Russians and the Celts--there's a lot of romance in both and I'm easily persuaded by it. Greg |
| Kate Unregistered User (5/25/01 11:30:35 am) |
Classical
Just weighing in to say I too of course love classical music and didn't mean to slight it in this discussion. My association with those mentioned is via ballet, so I wonder if memories of physical pain simply blocked my listing them here! (Strange coincidence--I just played "Love for Three Oranges" on my record player today.) |
| Gregor9 Registered User (5/29/01 1:00:32 pm) |
Coincidence?
More likely, it's one of those "great minds" phenomena. GF |
| Kate Unregistered User (5/29/01 10:36:00 pm) |
Great Minds
Indeed! It must be that! |
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