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Laura
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(2/1/01 10:20:26 pm)
Lovely art
This thread could easily wander off, but I wanted to mention a couple of wonderful artists I've just stumbled on. I'm a huge fan of Pre-Raphaelite style art, and in a book I've got there's a small reproduction of a painting by Evelyn Paul. I've searched the net and found only the tiniest bit of info on her -- latter-day Pre-Raph, work on net documented mainly with Dante's writing. Sadly, I can't seem to locate any in-print books that contain more of her work! I'd love to see it larger and in greater quantity, but without paying $1750.00 for an antique edition I'd be afraid to handle. :-) Any ideas?

I had much the same feeling on finding Warwick Goble today, though Heidi has a page on him which I hope to see some day -- it simply refuses to load for me right now.

Of course, now all my old favorites come right to mind: Waterhouse, Mucha, Blair Leighton, Burne-Jones, Dicksee, Leighton, Klimt, Rackham, Dulac, Draper .... Does anyone else feel the same, or have an additional (and similar) artist in mind that isn't named here? I always like to find new, more obscure folks.

Then there are the more current artists, like Charles Vess (the most wonderful man!), Barry Windsor-Smith, Michael Whelan (another delightful person) and Keith Parkinson. A recent discovery is the truly ethereal work of Yoshitaka Amano.

Thoughts, comments?


Laura

Terri
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(2/2/01 7:12:23 am)
Re: Lovely art
I suspect there are quite a few people here on this board who love the same kind of art -- I certainly do. I've never heard of Evelyn Paul, however. When was she working? In the later phase of Pre-Raphaelitism, along with people like Evelyn de Morgan and Waterhouse?

I had an interesting experience last month concerning de Morgan. I was in Cardiff, Wales to do some research at the National Museum of Wales, and I took a stroll over to the wonderfully loony Cardiff Castle, which was turned into a Pre-Raphaelite medieval fantasy by a young, rich marquis in the 19th century. I'd been through it several years before, but this time they had a new room open featuring the pottery of William de Morgan, who was a friend of the marquis. There were stunning drawings and an original painting on the wall, and I asked the guide about them and he said, "Oh yeah, those were by de Morgan's wife -- she liked to paint, I guess, and we were given those along with the pottery." Then he dropped the subject so that he could wax on and on about William de Morgan's genuis, while I stood there with my jaw dropped realizing I was in a room full of original Evelyn de Morgans. I was so stunned I couldn't speak.
Afterwards, I discovered I was pretty darn angry about the casual dismissal of this important female Pre-Raphaelite's work by a guide who'd been enormously knowledgeable and respectful of everything else Victorian and Pre-Raphaelite in Cardiff Castle. When I got home, I wrote a letter and copied pages about Evelyn de Morgan from various books, and sent it to Cardiff Castle. I can only hope it did some good.

You ask about other folks' favorite artists. I adore most of the people on your list (Dulac, Rackham, Goble in particular), and would add Kay Nielsen to it, and Jessie M. King and some of the other "Glassgow Girls," as well as folks from the Birmingham arts-and-crafts group like Arthur and Georgie Gaskell. I also like John Anster Fitzgerald, the Victorian fairy painter whose work was rather surreal due to his opium use. (The one great art find of my life is a hand-colored, signed print of his, picked up at a local flea market in my wee English village for the equalivalent of $15.00.) My very favorite fairy tale artist, however, is a Frenchwoman who published in the 1950s: Adrienne Segur. I've been trying to find out more about her and her life, but aside from the published books themselves, information seems to be sparse. (If anyone reading this post has any Segur info, *please* post it. There are several die-hard Segur fans here.)

As for modern people, I agree with you that Charlie Vess is terrific. (Have you seen the work he's got on the Endicott Studio site? (www.endicott-studio.com/gallery.html) The Michael Whelan/Frank Frazetta "muscular" school of fantasy painting isn't quite so much to my taste (athough I certainly respect Whelan's skill as a painter); my personal preference is for more Romantic works by artists like Tom Canty, Alan Lee, Brian and Wendy Froud, Mark Wagner, etc.. In the "fine art" world, there are some wonderful painters who work with myth and fairy tale themes like Paula Rego, Jaqueline Morreau, and (in her earlier "southwestern myth" phase) Holly Roberts. And the 20th century Mexican surrealists (we discussed on this board some time ago), like Remedios Varo and Leonora Carrington.

Speaking of art, there are some rather charming "coyote" pictures up now on the winter edition of the Coyote Madonna web site: www.coyotemadonna.com

Laura, are you an artist yourself, or simply interested in the subject?

Edited by: Terri at: 2/2/01 7:42:12 am

Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(2/2/01 10:55:44 am)
Re: Lovely art
Hmmmm...

I just looked at the Il Pentamerone pages and they loaded fine. I am not sure what is going on and I know the pages weren't in my cache so I got them "fresh." Here is the direct link:

surlalune.tripod.com/pent.../index.htm

If this still doesn't work for you, please link from the SurLaLune main page at:

The SurLaLune Fairy Tale Pages

While I am copying pasting links, the link to the main page to all of the illustrations I have available is at:

SurLaLune Fairy Tale Illustration Index

I haven't heard of Evelyn Paul either. Another research project!

I am in the process of scanning some more images from other illustrators so I hope this site starts working again.

Heidi

tlchang
Registered User
(2/2/01 12:33:28 pm)
lovely art
I love alot of the Pre-Raphealite art too. A couple of other people on my pre-raph list are Sir Laurence Alma-Tadema (and yes, I love Evelyn de Morgan). I am not crazy about William Holden Hunt over all but I like his "Lady of Shalott" quite well - I have that one on my wall. (was it Waterhouse who did the other Lady of Shalott painting? He's amazing).

For later 'lovely art' with a fairytale theme, I also enjoy the early American Illustration movement - starting with Howard Pyle and some of his well known students: N.C. Wyeth, Maxfield Parrish and Jesse Wilcox Smith to name a few.

A few contemporary people who deal with fairy tales are Jim Christensen, Scott Gustofson and Thomas Blackshear (though his are more mythological rather than faery). You can see works of all three on the Greenwich Workshop site. I had Jim Christensen as a teacher in college and loved his work, but even more I enjoyed his approach to life. He's published a series of journals (also available through GW) that have sketches from his sketchbooks and accomopanying quotes that rather show the way he thinks.

And there are many WONDERFUL children's illustrators that deal in fairy tales. I, too, am a huge Adrienne Segur fan (I think I mentioned in another post that I have tried every avenue I could think of trying to find out more about her also.... How can the publisher of the latest re-issue of her "Golden Book of Fairy Tales" have NO information on her? They have to know SOMETHING just to deal with the rights to her work, you would think....). Some other contemporary favorites: Trina Schart Hyman - her work reminds me of a more 'colorful' version of Arther Rackam. Mercer Meyer's fairy tales. Troy Howell - very classic. Kinuko K. Craft - her latest Cinderella is beatiful, as are all the covers she has done for Patricia McKillip's latest books. Another one of my very favorites - though not strictly a children's illustrator, she did lots of other stuff - is Susan Seddon Boulet. She's done lots of Native American and Goddess illustrations. Very complex - heavily symbolic.

I could go on, but I think that is plenty! :-)

Tara

Laura
Registered User
(2/4/01 3:09:58 pm)
Re: Lovely art
Terri -- good heavens no! I'm the most dreadful artist who ever lived! Just an appreciator of other people's talents. And a lover of that castle in Cardiff ;-)

Heidi -- 1st and 3rd links load text and background wise, but the images take an eternity and then don't load.

2nd link loads no problem and 4th link loads nothing at all except the banner.

Seems to me to be Tripod related.

BTW, I'm on a fractional T3 LAN on my college campus.


As to Evelyn Paul, I found out about her via her illustrations for F. Hadland Davis' "Myths and Legends of Japan." She also did a very famous set of illustrations based on Dante. The following page contains the most info I've been able to find on her:

www.speel.demon.co.uk/artists2/epaul.htm

The Davis book originally contained 40 plates, and a later edition cut it to 16. All I can find now are reprints of the smaller set, all of which are in black and white! I am unbelievably frustrated with this -- I'd kill to see her original 40 works in color, but here's the only place I've found such a thing:

s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea...39-9720162

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