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Kerrie
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(11/30/01 2:29:37 pm)
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Books a small research library should have...
I've been talking with the research librarian at work latley, as
I saw an editor had several fairy tale books on the table. They
all seem quite old or limited, so I thought I would post here to
see what everyone thought would be the top 10 books (number 1 being
your fave) that a small research library should have. Please include
details such as well-indexed, strog bibliography, critical analysis
vs. historical analysis vs. collection, etc. If this is too vague,
please let me know.
Forest frosts,
Kerrie
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Terri
Registered User
(12/2/01 6:02:38 am)
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Re: Books a small research library should have...
The Oxford Companion to Fairy Tales by Jack Zipes, for a start.
And I'm *constantly* referring to my two-volume set of The Funk & Wagnall Standard Dictionary Of Folklore, Mythology, And Legend edited by Maria Leach.
Edited by: Terri at: 12/2/01 6:10:25 am
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Helen
Registered User
(12/2/01 1:34:35 pm)
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Re: Books a
small research library should have...
Dear Kerrie:
I agree vociferously with Terri's nomination of the Zipes volume - it is quite handy - and I think that I'll be hunting down the Funk and Wagnall's encyclopedia myself at some point in the near future; sounds very useful. To start with - you probably already have one of these - an Aarne-Thompson index is invaluable. Quick question to all of the private collectors out there; how do you get your hands on these things? They haven't reprinted in years, and, as near as I can tell from haunting Addall. com et al., no one who's lucky enough to have one wants to sell. Arrgghh. Here are some of the titles that I find myself refering to time and time again:
Bendix, Regina. In Search of Authenticity, The University of Wisconsin Press, 1997.
Cashdan, Sheldon. The Witch Must Die: How Fairy Tales Shape Our Lives, Basic Books, 1999.
Dorsen, Richard M.. Folklore and Fakelore, Harvard University Press, 1976.
Dundes, Andes. Folklore Matters, The University of Tennessee Press, 1989.
Tatar, Marina. The Classic Fairy Tales, W.W. Norton and Company, 1999.
Tatar, Maria. Off With Their Heads!, Fairy Tales and the Culture of Childhood, Princeton University Press, 1992.
von Franz, Maria Louise. Individuation in Fairy Tales, Spring Publications, 1982.
von Franz, Maria Louise. Problems of the Feminine in Fairy Tales, Spring Publications, Inc., 1972.
von Franz, Maria Louise. Shadow and Evil in Fairy Tales, Spring Publications, Inc., 1983.
Warner, Marina. From The Beast to the Blonde, The Noonday Press, 1994.
Yolen, Jane. Touch Magic: Fantasy, Faerie, and Folklore in the Literature of Childhood, Philomel Books, 1981.
Zipes, Jack. The Great Fairy Tale Tradition, W.W. Norton and Company, 2001.
Zipes, Jack. Happily Ever After: Fairy Tales, Children, and the Culture Industry, Routledge, 1997.
Just a few thoughts; hope they're of some help.
Best,
Helen
Edited by: Helen at: 12/2/01 1:36:24 pm
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Heidi
Anne Heiner
ezOP
(12/2/01 2:00:21 pm)
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Re: Books a small research library should have...
Has anyone read Graham Anderson's "Fairy Tale in the Ancient World (2000)?" Zipes refers to it quite a bit in his introduction to "The Great Fairy Tale Tradition." I have requested a copy and plan to have a read at it sometime soon. After I finish the Sophie Masson books that arrived from Australia yesterday. And the Harries book which finally arrived, too. And Gail's book once I locate a copy.
Geesh. No wonder my shelves are bulging.
Also, has anyone heard about Nancy Canepa's upcoming translation of "Il Pentamerone?" I wonder when it will be published and where she is in her translation. It will hopefully be the definitive edition in English, beating out Croce.
Heidi
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Helen
Registered User
(12/2/01 5:13:45 pm)
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Re: Books a small research library should have...
I knew that I'd left someone off! Anderson does a fantastic job with the material - a very informative work. Chapter 6, "The Innocent Slandered Maiden," has been particularly useful to me this year; however, he includes chapters on "The Cinderella Story in Antiquity," Snow White and Related Tales," and just about everything else that a fairy-tale buff might be curious about the origins of. I'm quite excited about his upcoming work, the _Anthology of Ancient Fairytales_: now, *that* sounds like a must-have. I haven't spoken with Professor Canepa about this in too much detail, but I believe that she is approaching the completion of her translation ... I can't wait to read it. Her _Out of the Woods: The Origins of the Literary Fairy Tale in Italy and France_ is another necessity. Good lord ... no wonder I brought over a dozen boxes of books with me to grad school ...
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catja1
Registered User
(12/5/01 7:31:09 pm)
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Re: Books a small research library should have...
Oooh, great recommendations! I vote for every text previously mentioned, plus:
Maria Tatar,_The Hard Facts of the Grimms' Fairy Tales_
Cristina Bacchilega, _Postmodern Fairy Tales_
Max Luthi, _The European Folktale_
Ruth Bottigheimer, _Grimms' Bad Girls and Bold Boys_
_____, ed., _Fairy Tales and Society_
Bruno Bettelheim, _The Uses of Enchantment_ (I know, but he has to be read)
Vladimir Propp, _Morphology of the Folktale_
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Richard
Parks
Registered User
(12/6/01 7:00:50 am)
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Re: Books a small research library should have...
It's as much folklore as fairy-tale, but I've always found Katherine Brigg's AN ENCYCLOPEDIA OF FAIRIES very useful and fun.
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Kerrie
Registered User
(12/7/01 5:37:15 am)
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Re: Books a small research library should have...
Thanks for the responses so far! So, out of this list, can anyone give me their top 10 books in order? Here's the combined list:
The Oxford Companion to Fairy Tales by Jack Zipes
Two-volume set of The Funk & Wagnall Standard Dictionary Of Folklore, Mythology, And Legend edited by Maria Leach.
an Aarne-Thompson index is invaluable.
Bendix, Regina. In Search of Authenticity, The University of Wisconsin Press, 1997.
Cashdan, Sheldon. The Witch Must Die: How Fairy Tales Shape Our Lives, Basic Books, 1999.
Dorsen, Richard M.. Folklore and Fakelore, Harvard University Press, 1976.
Dundes, Andes. Folklore Matters, The University of Tennessee Press, 1989.
Tatar, Marina. The Classic Fairy Tales, W.W. Norton and Company, 1999.
Tatar, Maria. Off With Their Heads!, Fairy Tales and the Culture of Childhood, Princeton University Press, 1992.
von Franz, Maria Louise. Individuation in Fairy Tales, Spring Publications, 1982.
von Franz, Maria Louise. Problems of the Feminine in Fairy Tales, Spring Publications, Inc., 1972.
von Franz, Maria Louise. Shadow and Evil in Fairy Tales, Spring Publications, Inc., 1983.
Warner, Marina. From The Beast to the Blonde, The Noonday Press, 1994.
Yolen, Jane. Touch Magic: Fantasy, Faerie, and Folklore in the Literature of Childhood, Philomel Books, 1981.
Zipes, Jack. The Great Fairy Tale Tradition, W.W. Norton and Company, 2001.
Zipes, Jack. Happily Ever After: Fairy Tales, Children, and the Culture Industry, Routledge, 1997.
Graham Anderson's "Fairy Tale in the Ancient World (2000)?" Zipes refers to it quite a
bit in his introduction to "The Great Fairy Tale Tradition."
(includes chapters on "The Cinderella Story in Antiquity," Snow White and Related Tales," and just about everything else that a fairy-tale buff might be curious about the origins of.)
_____ (upcoming work) _Anthology of Ancient Fairytales_
Nancy L. Canepa _Out of the Woods: The Origins of the Literary Fairy Tale in Italy and France_
Maria Tatar,_The Hard Facts of the Grimms' Fairy Tales_
Cristina Bacchilega, _Postmodern Fairy Tales_
Max Luthi, _The European Folktale_
Ruth Bottigheimer, _Grimms' Bad Girls and Bold Boys_
_____, ed., _Fairy Tales and Society_
Bruno Bettelheim, _The Uses of Enchantment_ (I know, but he has to be read)
Vladimir Propp, _Morphology of the Folktale_
Katherine Brigg's AN ENCYCLOPEDIA OF FAIRIES
Sorry to repeat that! I wish we could order all of these! (Then I could borrow them from one place instead of doing interlibaray loan from 10 different libraries and still not finding all of them!)
Thanks!
Forest frosts,
Kerrie
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Kate
Unregistered User
(12/8/01 12:11:03 pm)
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Aarne-Thompson
I would like to echo the earlier query in this string: How does one get a copy of the Aarne-Thompson index? I have tried for years, to no avail. Have no access to one that I know of, except three hours south of here, too.
Advice?
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catja1
Registered User
(12/9/01 11:50:19 pm)
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Re: Aarne-Thompson
Hmmm, top 10? That's tough. You know what? I'll make one list of primary sources, and one of scholarship. Here goes!
Collections:
1. Zipes, The Complete Fairy Tales of the Brothers Grimm
2. Zipes, Beauties, Beasts and Enchantments
3. Tatar, The Classic Fairy Tales
4. Yolen, Favorite Folktales From Around the World
5. Calvino, Italian Folktales
6. Afanas'ev, Russian Fairy Tales (Guterson tr.)
7. Briggs, A Dictionary of British Folk-Tales, Part A: Folk Narratives
8. The Complete Fairy Tales of Hans Christian Andersen
9. Asbjornsen, Moe, Norwegian Folktales
10. Carter, The Virago Book of Fairy Tales and The Second Virago Book of Fairy Tales (aka The Old Wives' book... and Strange Things Sometimes Still Happen. Yes, I cheated.)
Scholarship:
1. Zipes, The Oxford Companion to Fairy Tales
2. Tatar, The Hard Facts of the Grimms' Fairy Tales
3. Bottigheimer, Grimms' Bad Girls and Bold Boys
4. Anderson, Fairy Tales in the Ancient World
5. Zipes, Fairy Tales and the Art of Subversion
6. Bacchilega, Postmodern Fairy Tales
7. Haney, Introduction to the Russian Folktale
8. Propp, Morphology of the Folktale
9. Luthi, The European Folktale
10. Aarne, Thompson, The Types of the Folktale
This is, of course, not a comprehensive list; limiting myself to 10 was very difficult! But these are the works I find myself referencing constantly.
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Midori
Unregistered User
(12/10/01 8:20:17 pm)
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Motif/tale type
Kate,
I am not so sure any more about the tale type, but the motif index is still available at Amazon. they even have a CD rom version for a mere $395.00. oh boy.
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