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jessicam999
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(5/17/07 11:50 pm)


significance of colors
if someone could please help me with finding the significance of colors in The Wizard Of Oz and Wicked. im doing a final paper for english and i cant seem to get going on it. if you can, Thanks!

maggy moulach
Registered User
(5/18/07 12:32 am)


red shoes
I know the colour red is thought very significant...the red shoes and poppies...I think it has something to do with Dorothy being at that time when a little girl is changing into a woman...there was a good post a while back all about red shoes in fairytales, you should look for that.

jessicam999
Registered User
(5/18/07 12:35 am)


Re: significance of colors
very true except that in the book the shoes are not red, they are silver. they are red in the movie because it showed up better on film. but thank you for your reply

agathajun
Registered User
(5/18/07 7:03 am)


silver/red etc
Hi, are you keeping to the book text of the Wizard of Oz then? Because Wicked comes from the film version, not the original book, so there will be a difference in the significance of colours if the sources aren't the same.
You might like to look at the theory that WOZ (the book) is an allegory of th epolitical and economic state of kansas at the time. The silver, gold and bronze become significant in this sense.
try this book, there are also articles on-line
www.amazon.com/Historians...0275974197

Veronica Schanoes
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(5/18/07 2:35 pm)


Re: silver/red etc
Well, Wicked draws on both the movie and the book versions, but you are going to want to clarify what you're using. In the book Dorothy is definitely not at the stage where a girl is changing into a woman. It's a bit more debatable in the movie, because while Garland was certainly 16 years old, the character is, in my opinion, nonetheless coded as a little girl (and indeed, Garland talked about how great a struggle it was to get the MGM studio bosses to see her as anything but a little girl in braids). There's also the question of whether you're using the book or musical versions of Wicked--in the musical, we see a silhouette of Dorothy, and she is very clearly a little girl.

jessicam999
Registered User
(5/18/07 9:09 pm)


Re:
We have read both the Wizard of Oz and Wicked for my class so i have to use them both. I HATE the movie which is why i'm not using it for my essay. I would like to write about the significance of the colors yellow (brick road), blue (munchikin land), white and silver (sorceress/witch colors), and of course, green. I just cant find that much to write about to fill up 10pgs worth! lol also, i'm refering to the books not the movie or play. thanks for everything so far!

Rosemary Lake
Registered User
(5/19/07 3:02 am)


Re: later oz books
In the later Oz books (there were at least 40, not all by Baum) the colors of the different countries are often mentioned. I don't recall if any significance is stated, but there might be. Many of these books are in public domain and online, so it ought to be possible to do a keyword search. (If anyone finds a good site for the search, pls let me know.)
r at rosemarylake dot com

bluewyvern
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(5/19/07 5:32 pm)


--
I haven't read it yet, but I have in my possession an Annotated Wizard of Oz which seems likely to hold at least a tidbit or two. (It was a gift -- I wanted the Grimms' or Classic Fairy Tales from the series, but got this instead. Oh, well.)

Good luck with your paper. it sounds like a fun topic, but lack of sources is always a bummer.

Edited by: bluewyvern at: 5/19/07 5:33 pm
agathajun
Registered User
(5/21/07 4:24 am)


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My old annotated WOZ book, beautifully (and somewhat obsessively) referenced, includes a map of Oz, divided into the four quarters, showing clearly the specific colour associated with it, as per the text. You could look at the qualities and temperaments of the people in each area, which are different, and seem to be the closest Baum comes to interpreting the meanings of the colours he assigned to the sections of land. Perhaps looking at colour theories popular at the time of writing would help give an insight into associations with them.

The grey, flat, monotonous quality of Kansas in the book contrasts with the colour of Oz (echoed in the film, see Salman Rushdie, though you're not using the film as a source).

Rosemary Lake
Registered User
(5/22/07 12:55 am)


Toto
Yes, in the book even Toto's bright black color was something lively in Kansas.

phouka
Registered User
(5/22/07 1:02 pm)


Re: Toto
Actually, just for clarification, Wicked is based off of Gregory McGuire's book of the same name. If you want the musical that is based off of the Wizard of Oz, then that's The Wiz.

Veronica Schanoes
Registered User
(5/22/07 4:12 pm)


Re: Toto
Don't know what you mean, phouka. Wicked the musical was clearly based on Wicked the book, both of which were based in the book and the movie-musical Wizard of Oz. The movie-musical The Wizard of Oz was based on the book The Wizard of Oz, as was the movie-musical The Wiz.

Van45us
Registered User
(5/23/07 8:21 pm)


Re:
Wow. Someone hates the Wizard of Oz movie. That's a first.

Veronica Schanoes
Registered User
(5/23/07 9:49 pm)


Re:
A couple of my students this past term told me that they found it "boring."

Of course, I immediately ordered them out of my sight and informed them their final grade would be docked 25 points for such an appalling sacrilege.

agathajun
Registered User
(5/24/07 3:19 am)


woz
Umm....I'm not that into it either, even though I've done lots of work on the ruby slippers. I think I liked it best when my grandma read me the Little Golden Book of the film. They didn't show it so much in Australia.
I'm still a good person though. Really.

Van45us
Registered User
(5/24/07 8:58 pm)


Re: woz
Veronica: good for you!

They don't show it as much as they used to here in the states, either. For years, it was a yearly "event" on television, and hauled in huge ratings. Like all good things that are overexposed, people started burning out on it after a while. But boring, never. Only to a generation that thinks movies like Saw consitute "entertainment."

It was great when, a few years ago, they showed it on the big screen again. I can see why it was so amazing back in the day. The tornado effects are well done for the time period, and everything in Oz is riveting. It may be the first truly "psychedlelic" film ever made. And Judy still has a better voice than a hundred Beyonce's or Little Kim's.

Veronica Schanoes
Registered User
(5/24/07 9:04 pm)


Re: woz
Oh, Garland's voice is amazing!

I remember when it was on yearly--it was so special that I was allowed to stay up past my bedtime to watch it. Since I was growing up in NYC, my mom always was able to scour the paper for revival theaters that were showing it on the big screen! Always a high point for me.

I always thought it stopped being such a big deal because with VCRs and now DVD players, anyone can watch any movie any time, so that once-a-year showing stopped meaning as much.

Rosemary Lake
Registered User
(5/24/07 11:49 pm)


Re: woz
There used to be a once a year showing of THE AFRICAN QUEEN too.

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