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esquire
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(12/21/06 11:10 pm)


Disguise / Metamorphosis
I have a seed of an idea for something I want to write, but I need to do some information-gathering first. If anyone can help me brainstorm about the following, it would be helpful:

What fairy tales/myths/stories can you think of that are based on

1) narratives of disguise (examples: wolf in sheep's clothing; the frog prince; stories about royalty dressing up as beggars)

2) narratives of metamorphosis (example: the ugly duckling; the Greek myth about Clytie who turned into a sunflower)

At this point, I'm thinking of disguise as something that's temporary and artificial, and metamorphosis as something that's permanent and "authentic."

I'm also looking for any books or articles about either of those, as well as names of academics/scholars who study these tropes or similar ones.

Thank you!

Rosemary Lake
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(12/22/06 3:05 am)


Re: Disguise / Metamorphosis
Heroines disguise themselves as men in "The Satin Surgeon" (to get access to a sick prince and cure him), to go on a quest ("The Fine Greenbird" or "Black Stones" in Lang's Arabian nights iirc), to lead an army for their father, to fight in a tourney....

The wicked queen in Snow White disguised herself as an old apple woman.

Many Cinderella variants have a princess running away in various wierd disguises: wooden skirt, cap of rushes, cloak of a thousand furs....

katherine
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(1/5/07 6:58 am)


Re: Disguise / Metamorphosis


Go to this website:
www.therianthropes.com/themes_in_shapeshifting.htm

Troy Patterson
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(1/16/07 4:14 pm)


Re: Disguise / Metamorphosis
The book The Writer's Journey discusses shape shifters primarily in supporting roles, but also the process of transformation.

It is based on Joseph Campbell's work The Hero's Journey.

I recommended this book and other of Campbell's writing highly.

Troy Patterson TMPCarbs.net

Edited by: Troy Patterson at: 1/17/07 3:24 pm
calisia girl
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(1/18/07 8:25 am)


Re: Disguise / Metamorphosis
Try reading Ovid's Metamorphes (sp?) he was an early greek writer and tells many of teh greek/roman myths that are all to do with metamorphesis. As it's over 500 years old you can easily find the whole text on the internet if you google it.

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Veronica Schanoes
Registered User
(1/18/07 2:09 pm)


Re: Disguise / Metamorphosis
Ovid was a Roman writer, during the time of Augustus, I believe, not Greek.

coffeeshakti
Registered User
(1/18/07 4:36 pm)


Re: Disguise / Metamorphosis
Trickster myths from all over the world include disguise. Many tricksters use it as a tool to manipulate those around him and to satisfy his insatiable appetite. Check out Trickster Makes this World by Lewis Hyde and Barry Lopez’s “Giving Birth to Thunder, Sleeping with his Daughter”

pinkolaestes
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(1/18/07 11:39 pm)


Re: Disguise / Metamorphosis
dear 'esquire'
i think you are on the right track
technically speaking in analytical psych and therby archetypal symbolism, we see quite a difference in night dreams for instance, of metamorphosis as a change/ evolution/ transformation/unfolding ... sometimes being related to the idea of being born fullly.... and disguise then as a desire to secret identity for various motives. Quite different engagements of psyche, also metam. thought of as many times autonomous, and disguise as deliberated. Also a third thing for a three legged stool... spellbinding... another 'change' of identity, often perpetrated by another... also for varying motives... but where as most often spellbreaking cannot be undone by the spellbound one, and another must free them, laying down one's disguise is willful, and metamorphosis often occurs as part of an innate or exogenous cycle that is beyond will alone. In psychoanalytic training whilst teaching mythos to young candidates I remind... that people do not transform by an act of ego's will alone; there is another invisible but palpably felt quickening that carries the process, setting the tempo

good luck on your imaginatio

RBrunea
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(1/29/07 4:33 am)


disguise
Lord of the Rings has two characters who disguise themselves. Aragorn, is the High King of all the land and disguises himself as a ranger until the proper time comes to claim his kingship. Eowyn is a king's neice, ordered to stay home and lead (die with) her people. Out of love for her uncle the king, she disguises herself as a soldier in order to fight - and ends up slaying the horrible witch king when no man could. Don't tell me Tolkien was chauvanistic!

Has anyone seen Pan's Labyrinth? There is a princess of the underworld who unwisely wanders into the human world above, dies, is brought back as an ordinary-appearing girl, and meets a quite sinister-looking faun who sets three tasks for her to perform before she can take her place in the underworld again as princess. (It's quite an intense movie as far as violence, just to warn the sensitive.)

Blessings,

Rhonda

bluewyvern
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(3/4/07 12:59 am)


Re: disguise
The various Donkeyskin-type tales (Rashincoatie, Coat of a Thousand Furs, tales with three dresses made of sun, moon, and stars) are a good place to explore some disguise motifs. There's also the "false bride" tale where a princess is headed to her wedding when her handmaiden forces her to change clothes with her on the road so that the handmaiden marries the prince and the princess is stuck disguised as a servant. I think one is called "The Goose Girl", where the princess ends up tending the geese, but there are plenty of variants.

You should of course read Ovid's Metamorphoses, which mostly deal with metamorphosis, but at least one famous tale from the poem involving disguise comes to mind -- the god Vertumnus disguises himself as an old woman in order to get close to and woo the wood-nymph Pomona, who walls herself up in her apple orchard and refuses to see men. No metamorphosis is involved here, though he does tell her other tales of metamorphosis in order to convince her to give herself to him.

Rosemary Lake
Registered User
(3/4/07 5:14 pm)


false bride
Check for "The White Duck", iirc, after the marriage a jealous woman kills the bride and her children, and takes her place.

DanielAtDragone
Registered User
(3/14/07 11:17 am)


Re: Disguise / Metamorphosis
What about Carlo Collodi's "The Adventures of Pinocchio." In this well known tale you have the ultimate metamorphosis of a wooden puppet into a human boy (not to mention a brief stint as a donkey along the way).

Our research indicates that the original story ended with Pinocchio's life ending at the gallows for punishment for his faults. It was his editor who intervened and encouraged Collidi to create a happier ending. Collidi introduced 20 more chapters to the serial story, introducing the Blue Fairy who leads Pinocchia onto the right path where he eventually is transformed into a boy.

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