SurLaLune Header Logo

This is an archived string from the
SurLaLune Fairy Tales Discussion Board.

Back to June 2007 Archives Table of Contents

Return to Board Archives Main Page

Visit the Current Discussions on Yuku

Visit the SurLaLune Fairy Tales Main Page

Author
Comment
Gardner Productions
Registered User
(5/9/07 7:38 pm)


"Once Upon A Time" movie
Ok, so I was originally going to make a Cinderella movie, but I didn't want people to think I was copying off other movies. I had so many ideas which I thought were original, but then they ended up already being made!! So now I'm thinking of combining a few fairy tales. i think i'm gonna have it start off as a college lecture studying the opening "once upon a time" and a girl saying how ridiculous it is, since a girl can't fall in love with a prince in one night, and poision on a tiny little needle can't kill you, etc. So everyone's assigned to write there own "fairy tale", and it transitions to fairytale time, with the girl as the main character. it's basically a cinderella story but with elements of the others, for example, the stepmother tries to kill cindy with a poison apple or a spindle, or both at different times (haven't decided yet), but it doesn't work. and the prince is sick of being just cared for because of his status so he goes "undercover" as a peasant and works for the glassmaker, cindy's always going to the glassmaker to buy new mirrors because her sisters are vain (snow white thing). does anyone have any ideas because i'm starting my screenwriting classs next wednesday and i want to have some good ideas so i can get this done by the end of summer!

thanks~

brianna

MaryCatelli
Registered User
(5/10/07 5:54 pm)


Re: "Once Upon A Time" movie
Humm.

Do you want to include only fairy tales that people will recognize? If you would like to include more off-the-beaten path ones, I would recommend reading some collections of fairy tales.

Gardner Productions
Registered User
(5/11/07 9:59 pm)


Re: "Once Upon A Time" movie
Well it really all depends, I mean I want it to be an intelligent film, not some cliche fairy tale drama that is so easy to figure out a kindergardener could do it, but it's just difficult writing a fairytale kind of script without it being cheesy or corny!!

MaryCatelli
Registered User
(5/12/07 2:11 pm)


Re: "Once Upon A Time" movie
I recommend watching "Spirited Away" which draws on a lot of Japanese folklore, to see how folklore can be used even when the audience is not familiar with it.

Troy Patterson
Registered User
(5/22/07 1:00 pm)


Re: "Once Upon A Time" movie
I like to approach screenwriting from the perspective of what I want to accomplish in the telling of the story.

What message / emotion / ideal / moral do you want to convey?

Does love triumph? Does good conquer evil? Do you want to impact people by making it a positive reinforcement (a happy ending) or impact them by way of a tragedy? Or is it pure entertainment?

Troy Patterson TMPCarbs.net TMP Carbs

Edited by: Troy Patterson at: 5/22/07 1:01 pm
moonway
Registered User
(5/23/07 6:47 pm)


Re: "Once Upon A Time" movie
I've rewritten a fair number of fairy tales, and an approach I've found that helps is to think how the story would happen "in real life" -- whatever that means. Another approach is to fill in the gaps. What I mean is that when you read a fairy tale, there are many things that aren't explained at all or are simply left out. You almost never know how people feel about what happens, or what would happen if the law were involved for example.

You see in Cinderella that she has a fairy godmother. How could she not know that she did? In Snow White the Queen starts out with a straightforward murder attempt, but then switches to indirect attempts that are both bizarre and ineffective. Why?

Kaleigh Way

Gardner Productions
Registered User
(5/24/07 9:20 pm)


Re: "Once Upon A Time" movie
In response to Troy: Well the story is mostly about the Prince. In most fairytales, the Prince is merely some anonymous goodlooking guy who finds the girl of his dreams because she's beautiful and nothing more. I hope to address this issue of the fantasy-world's obsession with beauty and social status. The prince is tired of women using him as a means to advance their social status and marry him just for his wealth and power. He wants to find someone he actually has something in common with, and can hold a solid conversation. So he decides to take up an apprenticeship with a glass-blower, and that's how he meets Cinderella, who is always going there to buy new mirrors for her vain step-sisters. He doesn't want her to find out he's really a prince, so he can see if she'll fall in love with him for who he is, not what he has.

And to Kaleigh:

That is my entire goal of this movie. I want to make a "believable" fairytale, one which fills in all the gaps and makes people think, "Wow, that is possible." Which is why I mentioned the above. People can't just fall in love after one night, the ball for instance, and expect to live happily ever after. In my rendition, Cinderella doesn't have a fairy godmother, or an enchanted pumpkin, or mice that turn into horses. Actually, the prince is the one to make her the shoes, and get her the dress, so in a way, the prince himself acts as her fairy godmother.

Edited by: Gardner Productions at: 5/24/07 9:23 pm
Troy Patterson
Registered User
(6/4/07 10:49 pm)


Re: "Once Upon A Time" movie
I d start off with all the superficial motivations and scenerios so prevelant in our society, particualry in Los Angeles, then slowly transition into the reality of the Prince having depth and although on the surface he may appear to be motivated as the shallow are, under the surface he is really much deeper. That the viewer (who is shallow) is attributing to others (the Prince and possibly Cinderella) their own limited depth.

I like the use of the lecture hall and detractor. That start us in our world and transitions us nicely into another. I d also have the Prince fall in love at first sight as I believe it is possible. I ll admit that it also possible to think we ve fallen in love at first sight and it be a terrible thing, but we ll exclude that. Just my personal perspective on that one, but I like it because it would be paradixical because some people think to fall in love at first sight is shallow or could only be shallow.

Troy Patterson TMPCarbs.net TMP Carbs

Troy Patterson
Registered User
(6/4/07 11:07 pm)


Re: "Once Upon A Time" movie
To expand a little further;

Falling in love at first sight and it actually working is a long shot, but if you think about it, it really is not all that different from dating as both people are generally on their best behavior and presenting their best social masks.

How long does it take to let down those barriers and really let oneself be known or to know? How naive are the two individuals? The thing is, if there does not exist that unspoken understanding - connection, be it immediate or not, there is little chance of a successful relationship any way.

So, for the Prince and Cinderella to form and have a successful relationship, and here is the chance to convey a little wisdom to those many naive individuals made so as a result of an absence of healthy roles models for partnering and maintaining a happy - successful marriage, the Prince and Cinderella would have to be exceptions to the rule and you would need to demonstrate that by contrasting the normal assumptions - mistakes, leaving room the viewer a chance to make the incorrect judgement - assumption, then the Prince and Cinderella demonstrating healthier responses. That is not to say they should not be mislead by well meaning supporting characters and that inner conflict does not hamper their attempts.

Just some thoughts.

Troy Patterson TMPCarbs.net TMP Carbs

SurLaLune Logo

amazon logo with link

This is an archived string from the
SurLaLune Fairy Tales Discussion Board.

©2008 SurLaLune Fairy Tale Pages

Back to June 2007 Archives Table of Contents

Return to Board Archives Main Page

Visit the Current Discussions on Yuku

Visit the SurLaLune Fairy Tales Main Page