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DaniM101
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(6/1/07 4:36 am)


Fairytales, the changes made to them - for PIP
Hi, as part of my 12 course at school, i take the subject of Society and Culture. As part of the course requirements, i am to do a personal interest project. The project is a subject of your choice and is marked externally. It makes up a large part of my final marks. the topic i am doing is on traditional fairytales and the changes made to them through modern appropiations, namely the Disney appropiations. Does anyone have any ideas on what to research?

Edited by: DaniM101 at: 6/1/07 4:41 am
AliceCEB
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(6/1/07 5:23 am)


Re: Fairytales, the changes made to them - for PIP
Good luck with your PIP.

There are many possible topics to research. You might start by looking here for ideas.

Best,
Alice

Rosemary Lake
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(6/2/07 8:10 pm)


how modern?
How modern do the appropriations need to be? Appropriations have been happening for centuries.

The Cabinet des Fees took a cheerful farce about lovers hiding from a duenna, and made it into the tragic Rapunzel that includes blindness and much suffering.

Another Cabinet des Fees writer took something similar to Cupid and Psyche (with a gentle, loving 'monster' as a mysterious husband) and made his behavior rough and monstrous (similar to Disney's 'Beauty and the Beast'); another Cabinet des Fees writer changed it to the gentle, appealing 'monster'; then Disney went back to the monstrous monster.

I'm not sure whether Perrault was the first to 'appropriate' the core of the Red Riding Hood story, but an early version was a macabre farce that ended with the girl exposing the monster and escaping by saying she had to go to the bathroom.

I think Hans Andersen may have done some 'appropriating' of older stories; certainly the Snow Queen in her sledge, collecting children, long predated Andersen (and Lewis!)

There are stories in the Pentamerone and the Arabian Nights that were appropriated for literary treatment from earlier versions.

And that's not even counting operas. :-)

MaryCatelli
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(6/3/07 1:38 pm)


Re: how modern?
The problem with analyzing Perrault and the preciouses and still more the Pentamore is that we deduce that they "appropriated" something ("used" would be more neutral) because of their stories. We don't have the original stories to work from.

Rosemary Lake
Registered User
(6/4/07 6:17 am)


yes....
That's why I put the term 'appropriate' in half-quotes. :-)

Here's something that might help the OP if she's focusing on Disney:
www.mouseplanet.com/fairy...010710.htm
The writer, Kevin Yee, uses a grating style, and I'm not sure he's right on all points, but it might be a starting place. Perrault's Cinderella is obviously an 'appropriation'; Yee seems to accept the Grimms as nearer the 'peasant version', but they have been challenged also.

As for analyzing, if that means comparing the text a literary author produced with the text/s zie worked from ... then the only analyzing that can be done is probably going to be comparing zir 'appropriation' with previous writers' 'appropriation/s'.

MaryCatelli
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(6/4/07 5:51 pm)


Re: yes....
What I find interesting is that he looks at Perrault's moral and does not see a sardonic comment about the importance of connections in court life.

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