SurLaLune Header Logo

This is an archived string from the
SurLaLune Fairy Tales Discussion Board.

Back to July 2007 Archives Table of Contents

Return to Board Archives Main Page

Visit the Current Discussions on Yuku

Visit the SurLaLune Fairy Tales Main Page

Author
Comment
Taunne Faery
Registered User
(6/21/07 12:16 pm)


Tuatha de Danann
I am new to the world of fairytales & myth. I am looking for information about the Tuatha de Danann. I find reference to these folks that basically states that they are one of four "invasions" of peoples who came into Ireland. I have also found reference to the "fact" that they were in Ireland from 1897-1700BC. So, a couple of questions -
1. Did they exist & is the timeframe accurate?
2. Can someone suggest a book or books or website where I can learn more about the facts before delving into the myth.
3. What manner of timekeeping would the Tuatha de Danann have followed/used? - by timekeeping, I mean for following dates & days (ie: solar calendar??)

Thanks, Taunne Faery

otto1980
Registered User
(6/23/07 12:53 pm)


Re: Tuatha de Danann
Looks like you could get some nice leads on info here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuatha_de_Danann

Taunne Faery
Registered User
(6/23/07 6:21 pm)


Re: Tuatha de Danann
Thanks, Otto. Wikipedia.org is a wonderful site & they have a lot of information that leads in one way or another to the Tuatha de Danann. However, everything I have located, so far, uses these words or phrases: Legendary History, Mythical Invasions, Fairy Mythology of Ireland, Ancient Legends, A Race of Irish Gods, Irish-Celtic Mythology, One of the Mythical Races... and so on.
The most prominent sources (at least on the web and the books from the local library) are a very small number of books published/printed well after the supposed invasions took place. "history is based largely on the mythical Book of Invasions... contains the (fictional) history of Ireland."
A website - LibraryIreland - has a paper written in 1888 that states "...those who tood down hte legends were Christian missionaries whose object was to obliterate every vestage of the ancient forms of faith."
The Annals of the Four Masters includes (if I understand it correctly) the mythical invasions, which were to have occurred from "AFM 1897BC to FFE 1477BC."

So we have this mythology to compare(?) to basic facts of "accepted" time - Mesolithic 8000BC - 4500BC, Neolithic 4500BC - 2500BC, Bronze Age - 2500BC to 700BC. Why can't I find any comparison, reference, conclusion, etc, that puts the Tuatha de Danann as a "real" people? Not enough evidence? No one wants to step out on a limb? Or am I not using the proper keywords???

Perhaps this is akin to the discussion of fairy-tales?? Nobody's right?

Van45us
Registered User
(7/18/07 9:51 pm)


Re: Tuatha de Danann
Not enough evidence. It's very likely they, as well as many other semi-mythical people may have been based on reality, and I have seen websites (don't ask me where, it's been ages) that put forth these claims. Unless archeological evidence is found regarding a people who called themselves the Tuatha de Danann, or were called that by others, then we'll never know. Sadly, they no doubt had no written language.

One theory is that they were the "People of Dan," linking them to Biblical Jews. Another was the "People of Dana," a pagan goddess. Many "primitive" cultures call themselves The People, or The People of (someone). It would make sense, only we don't know. If there's anyone out there who has newer or more extensive info on this, feel free to wade in here.

SurLaLune Logo

amazon logo with link

This is an archived string from the
SurLaLune Fairy Tales Discussion Board.

©2008 SurLaLune Fairy Tale Pages

Back to July 2007 Archives Table of Contents

Return to Board Archives Main Page

Visit the Current Discussions on Yuku

Visit the SurLaLune Fairy Tales Main Page