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MaryCatelli
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(7/9/07 4:48 pm)


Re: fiction on Fairy Godmother
"heathen/pagan/immortal/magic/godless" is begging the question.

MEDATS
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(7/10/07 1:59 am)


Re: fiction on Fairy Godmother
Golly, yes, no offence meant! It was sort of a contrast to institutional religious thinking about fairies. *blushes*
Pagan in sense of non-christian religion
Maybe otherworldy, or magic being?
Actually, how to define fairy?

really sorry everyone, it was a train of thought that probably should have had a bit more of a think before posting.

*retreats, still blushing, pondering merits of lurking*

InkGypsy
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(7/10/07 2:33 am)


Re: Fairy Godmothers: Research, Retellings & Recent Deve
All the fairy godmother variants in the tales are quite fascinating I have to say!

I didn't get very far with researching just 'godmothers' as suggested - mostly the term appears to have religious connections (as you would expect) but is not necessarily limited to that. (As an interesting aside - one tradition calls for 2 godmothers and 1 godfather for girls and 2 godfathers and 1 godmother for boys.)

I felt there was more there to mine and that Mary was onto something so looked at the varieties of 'child-caretaking by a non-blood relative' and there's heaps there. Everything from choosing who would be your child's guardian if something happened to you, to sending your child for a season (or two) for 'training'/mentoring/apprenticeship (sp?) to another person/ally (reminds me of some of the King Arthur tales), to fulfilling necessary rites of passage (as guided by this 'godparent') to reach adulthood - not always a pleasant experience. I'd have to read my newly arrived Morphology of a Folktale in order to find the term Propp used for these sorts of people and look up the tales from there.

Interesting thing is almost all these women (because they often are women) are either all-knowing-ageless-wise fairies or, more commonly menopausal/post-menopausal characters. This sent me back to considering the triune aspect - they're not maidens or peers; they're not mothers or mother-substitutes; they are, in the BEST sense of the word 'crones'.

Baba Yaga is the classic crone to my mind and fulfills a fairy godmother role from time to time (even if it uses a 'tough love' approach!) She's like the dark side of the fairy godmother - the flip side of that oh-so-shiny-coin we're familiar with.

So I've been reading up on the Crone and where recently this phase of life was feared and resisted there now seems to be a return to revering old age - respect for the experiences had and a receptivity for the wisdom earned as once we used to in ancient times and old tales. This article, Rebirth of the Crone Archetype is very interesting and though it has Wiccan leanings I think anyone, no matter their personal beliefs, will find it well considered and thought provoking.

So I need to go pull out my copy of Jane Yolen's Gray Heroes: Elder Tales From Around the World (how many of you have been waiting for me to finally get there?!) and re-read those stories with all this in mind.

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